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2-13-2008 2:19 AM
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Cut off. Completely. As in offline. This is going a bit far, I reckon. Slap folks with a fine, okay, but don't disconnect people. That's just cruel, excessive and inhumane punishment IMO.
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2-13-2008 2:47 AM
mickfinn
Things are not always as black as they seem. There is so much happening on the internet at any given time it would be virtually impossible for regulation of any sort to be successful. If the ISPs were to be responsible for monitoring and policing illegal downloads they would have no time to provide any other service whatsoever.

There was a brief discussion about this subject last night (13 Feb) on Chris Evans’ ‘Drive Time’ on BBC Radio 2. It was in the Business News spot of the programme, which is c. 30 minutes from the start. However, I was negotiating the evening rush hour at the time so may not have given it my full attention.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/evans/
2-13-2008 2:53 AM
swampfoxz
Who ARE these people who come up with these laws and why have we not ran them over?
2-13-2008 3:04 AM
Deepti
Who ARE these people who come up with these laws and why have we not run them over?
2-13-2008 5:46 AM
mickfinn
What are you . . . proof reader?
2-13-2008 1:55 PM
kkcapricorn
I really don't understand these things. What exactly is illegal downloading?
If I take something from YouTube and put it on a web site or even on clipmarks is that illegal?
If I use a Dizzler or Standalone music player on a website is that illegal?
2-14-2008 11:16 AM
Oortcloud
@ kkcapricorn.

The illegal portion mainly comes from people downloading music, movies, and video games that you normally would be buying. Though I'm sure it will quickly umbrella into video snippets like you find on sites like youtube.

I think its a load of shit, myself. Anything that we've really liked we we've gone and bought. My wife and I have spent a buttload of money over the years on movies that really sucked and games that were no were near as good as the box claimed. You can't get a ticket refund for a movie just because it sucked (can anyone say "Hitchhikers guide to the Universe?") and stores don't take back pc games that have been opened (Bioshock just would not run on my compu...
2-14-2008 4:19 PM
ramsesemerson
that's not right--I don't think it'll ever be passed.
2-14-2008 4:22 PM
PayneLess_Designs
a practice that music and film companies claim is costing them billions[unquote]

It is their claim, but has any one/organization studied the claim to see if the claim is true or whether this is just a wild claim to get Draconian laws passed without proof of the actual loss in revenue to them?

Ron
2-14-2008 4:31 PM
arifsali
So if you use torrents then you'd be cutoff? Seems like they're imprisoning the drinkers instead of doing anything about those who create and distribute the liquors. Did prohibition worked?
2-14-2008 4:45 PM
Oortcloud
I wonder how they will handle sites that offer streaming video? Is that considered downloading if you click a button and a show/movie/music starts to play?
2-14-2008 7:19 PM
thisnamecantbetaken
You're allowed to watch streaming, but you're not allowed to download copyrighted material to your harddrive and keep it there for more than 24 hours. (I think) You have to delete it. Otherwise it is intellectual property theft or something. (I think... but who knows??) I suppose you're not allowed to keep anything, but bookmarks and non-copyrighted material or music and movies you have paid for.

Today they can and probably would use anything against you they can and it says you get three warnings. What is that? Like, just download three mp3's and bam, your offline?

Are there national differences in the rules or are copyright rules the same for all countries? I dunno that either.
2-14-2008 9:18 PM
SteveJohnSteele
"Users suspected of wrongly downloading"
(suspected)

Sounds like a witch hunt to me.

All that I see is a lot of customers crying "prove it", and encrypted systems growing in popularity.

I can see a lot of people wanting their day in court

Using BitTorrent (or any other download / P2P system) is no guarantee that a person is in breach of copyright.
As there are many perfectly legal uses of BitTorrent and P2P. (Linux distros, OpenOffice etc)
AFAIK Even the BBC iPlayer uses a P2P system.
2-15-2008 5:22 AM
Brimstone
So does anyone have the IronMan movie yet?_?
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