Djiezes, there are 2 problems i see with the size of it:

1) Legal/moral issues: i don't feel comfortable displaying entire articles from other publishers in the public area of clipmarks.

2) The experience for everyone on the site: My hope is that by aggregating clip-size portions of information that people post about all sorts of topics, all site visitors will be able to learn about more things than they can on othe sites that solely present either entire articles or links to them.

I'm thinking that we should have a "small clips day" as an experiment just to see what kind of effect it has on the site if everyone makes an effort for a day to create smaller clips.

I just feel ver...

Djiezes, there are 2 problems i see with the size of it:

1) Legal/moral issues: i don't feel comfortable displaying entire articles from other publishers in the public area of clipmarks.

2) The experience for everyone on the site: My hope is that by aggregating clip-size portions of information that people post about all sorts of topics, all site visitors will be able to learn about more things than they can on othe sites that solely present either entire articles or links to them.

I'm thinking that we should have a "small clips day" as an experiment just to see what kind of effect it has on the site if everyone makes an effort for a day to create smaller clips.

I just feel very strongly that for one or both of the reasons above it's going to have to get this way sooner than later.

I understand your concerns.

The first one - legal issues / possible copyright infringement - may be quite valid. There has been some discussion on this topic. The source URL is indeed provided so plagiarism is ruled out; but it might still be seen as violation of fair use if an entire article/webpage is being clipped.

The second issue you point out might even be more important. The Clipmarks philosophy (or here) is greatly helped by 'clip-size' and 'clip-...

I understand your concerns.

The first one - legal issues / possible copyright infringement - may be quite valid. There has been some discussion on this topic. The source URL is indeed provided so plagiarism is ruled out; but it might still be seen as violation of fair use if an entire article/webpage is being clipped.

The second issue you point out might even be more important. The Clipmarks philosophy (or here) is greatly helped by 'clip-size' and 'clip-worthy' passages, which would in result a place where you can find only the 'best bits of the web'.

I definitely would not like to lose the ability to store, share an discover 'non-clipsize' clips. Hence only making them non-pop-able would keep a lot of people happy.
On the other hand, if you check 'All-time Popular', there aren't many clipsize clips there; so they are poppable.

And I do think it could have a detrimental effect on clips such as howto's, recipes, lists, etc... . Not making those pop-able would make them harder to find on clipmarks.
I've got this feeling it would make Clipmarks even more a political playground and less a place to find diverse information.

(I'm not desperately playing the devils advocate on this one; just trying to help and stir the debate. I don't think I'm the only one with those thoughts)

Anyway, I'm happy you still permit the making of non-clip-size clips public.

After reading Eric's remarks I was going to make precisely the point Djiezes made in his first comment.

I've posted methods and linked to bookmarklets and little tools that really help in making nice clean clips numerous times. I don't know if a single person has tried them; no response as yet.

I think the consternation over legal, and especially moral, elements are overwrought, and I suspect more an expression of the aggregate of recent web buzz and fret about it, than concerns that came to you independently Eric, am I right?

I say relax on this, at least for a bit, and see how things play out. I think that if you begin placing the restrictions that you're considerin...

After reading Eric's remarks I was going to make precisely the point Djiezes made in his first comment.

I've posted methods and linked to bookmarklets and little tools that really help in making nice clean clips numerous times. I don't know if a single person has tried them; no response as yet.

I think the consternation over legal, and especially moral, elements are overwrought, and I suspect more an expression of the aggregate of recent web buzz and fret about it, than concerns that came to you independently Eric, am I right?

I say relax on this, at least for a bit, and see how things play out. I think that if you begin placing the restrictions that you're considering, someone will create a new webapp based on your old model, thus robbing you of what you created.

All said with the understanding that this is your baby and these are your sticky wickets. May all go well and as you wish.