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8-23-2008 7:07 PM
BartendingBear
Boo freakin' hoo. Do you really believe her supporers to be so mindless that they'll vote for McSame? On second thought...
8-23-2008 8:10 PM
dl211
Wouldn't it be ironic if BO's snubbing of HRC lead to his defeat?
8-23-2008 9:29 PM
n2sooners
Who will be boohooing after November when 'The One' isn't the winner of the election?
8-24-2008 2:51 AM
bmeuppls
The old guard (Kennedy etal) of the democrat party has retaken the reins and thrown the crackers (Clintons) and their supporters back into the closet...
8-24-2008 3:22 AM
jmjoness
I was very surprised that he didn't pick her. Maybe he's scared he'll get whacked off if he's elected... (JK!)
8-24-2008 3:11 PM
The REAL Napster
Maybe he's scared he'll get whacked off if he's elected... (JK!)
Nah, that just happens to Slick Willie. The term you were thinking of perhaps, was 'knocked off'?

And yes, it's a valid concern. If the #1 slot becomes vacant that leaves the VP to step in automatically.
8-25-2008 4:24 PM
wiccantexan
Wouldn't it be ironic if BO's snubbing of HRC lead to his defeat?
Snubbing? The Obama campaign has bent over backwards to accomodate the Clintons' egos. From what I understand, Hillary asked NOT to be vetted unless she was a serious contender for the VP slot.
8-25-2008 4:27 PM
wiccantexan
Also, why should Obama supporters be forced to dig up the $$ for her woefully-mismanged campaign? It's not Obama's responsibility to clean up her mess; no other potential candidates are getting this kind of special treatment. Hillary's supporters need to put their big kid panties on and accept the obvious. It seems that Hillary has at least come to terms; why can't her supporters?
8-25-2008 5:17 PM
n2sooners
Look, Obama doesn't have to do squat. He won and he can do whatever the hell he wants. Fact is, I love the position he is taking. Problem is, he barely won his party's nomination. In many of the important states for him to win, Hillary got more votes than he did. And right now there is a significant number of Hillary supporters who are miffed at him for how he has treated Hillary. And having one of his people call one of Hillary's people an uncle Tom isn't going to help.

And when you look at the bigger picture, how does he plan on unifying America when he can't even do what it takes to unify his own party? He SHOULD have vetted Hillary. He SHOULD have put her on his short list. He SHOULD ha...
8-25-2008 5:42 PM
The REAL Napster
And when you look at the bigger picture, how does he plan on unifying America when he can't even do what it takes to unify his own party? He SHOULD have vetted Hillary. He SHOULD have put her on his short list. He SHOULD have consulted Bill before making his VP choice. If nothing else he should have done those things because it would have looked good. I'm glad he didn't, but he should have.
point, set & match.
8-25-2008 10:45 PM
dl211
Snubbing? The Obama campaign has bent over backwards to accomodate the Clintons' egos.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the Clintons....it's Hillary's supporters whom Obama has offended.
8-25-2008 11:30 PM
The REAL Napster
It has absolutely nothing to do with the Clintons....it's Hillary's supporters whom Obama has offended.
Yes and No. Hillary's supporters are outraged, for sure. They are all looking to her like this great 'injustice' has been done.

Hillary has to respond to them in some fashion as they paid alot of money to get her right to the edge...only to see her drop off the cliff and they don't like that. So now Obama alienates both Hillary and her supporters? Not a good career move Obama. Big mistake. Huge.
8-26-2008 12:46 AM
skjones
How insane is it that Obama chose a running mate who came in 5th in Iowa, instead of the person who received 18 million votes? I am furious, and although I am a far left liberal, I will not vote for a man who's ego is so huge, he would sacrifice the nomination because of it. I will vote for Hillary in 4 years, and suffer through 4 more years of Republican torture.....thanks alot Barrack, you are a true team player!!!
8-26-2008 9:53 AM
wiccantexan
He SHOULD have consulted Bill before making his VP choice.
Why? He has to get Daddy's approval instead of making his own decision like a big boy? The Clintons are no longer in charge of the Democratic party, and Obama does not have to answer to them.
8-26-2008 9:57 AM
wiccantexan
I don't care if Obama won the nomination by 10 million votes, or 10 votes. He WON. That's not ego, that's taking his rightful place. And Hillary (and Bill) refuse to take that final step to make their supporters accept it, which to me is the ultimate ego trip. They're going to hang on to past glory until the bitter end, even if it means the entire party rips in two. The Clintons have issues far beyond Obama, which is why I'm elated that Hillary did not get the nomination.
8-26-2008 10:13 AM
BartendingBear
Couldn't agree more, WT.
8-26-2008 10:25 AM
n2sooners
Why? He has to get Daddy's approval instead of making his own decision like a big boy? The Clintons are no longer in charge of the Democratic party, and Obama does not have to answer to them.
For show. For the fact that Clinton was the last democrat to win the job of president. For the fact that Clinton picked a VP who most democrats probably think was a great pick. I didn't say he absolutely had to take that advice, just that it would have been smart to ask for it. He seems to be so eager to embrace the failure that is Carter, but has shunned the much more successful Clinton.

I don't care if Obama won the nomination by 10 million votes, or 10 votes.
Neither ...
8-26-2008 3:03 PM
wiccantexan
For show. For the fact that Clinton was the last democrat to win the job of president. For the fact that Clinton picked a VP who most democrats probably think was a great pick. I didn't say he absolutely had to take that advice, just that it would have been smart to ask for it. He seems to be so eager to embrace the failure that is Carter, but has shunned the much more successful Clinton.
For SHOW?! The old dishonest politics as usual? I'm glad Obama didn't. Though Carter hardly did a stellar job as President, I think not being impeached makes him a winner over Clinton.
8-26-2008 9:09 PM
n2sooners
Once again we are back to him being what he is. If you want to win people over you sometimes have to compromise. That doesn't mean he would have had to compromise his standards (assuming, as a politician, that he has any), but he can say and do things to make things go smoother.

Think of it as a relationship. If a man tells his wife that she looks like the end of a long, hard winter she isn't going to have nearly the same attitude as if he tells her she looks like the first day of spring.

Obama could have vetted Hillary if she wanted to be vetted or not and her supporters would have liked that. He could have kept her name on the list (it isn't like she wouldn't have been a good choice) unt...
8-27-2008 11:14 AM
wiccantexan
Obama didn't lie to Hillary. She told him right out not to bother if she wasn't a serious contender. An honest exchange of reality, which is more than the la-la land many of her supporters are still in.
8-27-2008 11:15 AM
wiccantexan
Plenty of long-time Republicans who are not won over by McCain. The nature of politics. What's any different now?
8-27-2008 11:41 AM
n2sooners
Obama didn't need to lie to Hillary to vet her. It was rather stupid on his part to not even consider her as a seriout contender.

McCain hasn't won me over either. He could go a long way towards winning over or further alienating his base with his VP pick. He could very well make the same mistakes Obama made and tip the scales right back in Obama's favor.
8-27-2008 12:04 PM
dl211
Plenty of long-time Republicans who are not won over by McCain. The nature of politics. What's any different now?
No, I don't especially like McCain, I will not vote for him, but it's not due to any of the other candidates that ran but lost, my dislike of McCain is soley on the issues.

Hillary supporters feel let down by Obama and the DNC, no amount of stiring the pot will change that that stew.
8-27-2008 4:37 PM
wiccantexan
Our local news station just sent out a breaking Email: Hillary Clinton tells her delegates she's releasing them to vote for Barack Obama.
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