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8-21-2007 8:36 PM
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8-21-2007 8:43 PM
willhelm
I think this is bogus. I would guess 3 out of 4 read no books. I certainly agree that the fewest readers reside in the Northeast, but I would suspect a much higher number do not read books. This country is full of 50% idiots for a reason. They are too busy reading blogs and wikipedia.
8-21-2007 11:18 PM
bignosemousie
I don't agree, Willhelm. I doubt the numbers are as high as you suggest. 1 in 4 is sad enough.

This country is full of 50% idiots for a reason. They are too busy reading blogs and wikipedia.
I'll bet some people read books based on other people's blogs. There are many of those I'll bet even an idiot can read.
8-23-2007 10:26 AM
Ashes2Ashes
I read four books in the last month :-X, who knows how many in a year.
8-23-2007 10:44 AM
djkraz
I guess I'm an idiot... I haven't read a book in many years.
8-23-2007 1:02 PM
RecordSage
I don't think it's that surprising considering all kinds of other sources of 'enlightenment'. Probably TV being the biggest culprit. Personally I only have time to read technical books... unless I'm on a business trip or vacation (that hasn't occurred in years). Sometimes I can squeeze in occasional Jeffery Deaver, but there's just no time to read.

I agree with Derek, when you consider the current lack of time due to business, kids, etc. - it's tough to find the time... in fact when you do find an hour or two a month - you want to just sit and watch DH4 or something, to simply get away from it all for just a little while... and then back to reality.

Of course one could also substitute t...
8-23-2007 1:43 PM
gwendolyn
If you rightfully took away from romance novels the distinction of being considered reading material, then willhelm would be correct.
8-23-2007 1:44 PM
willhelm
RS, I am a pretty busy and hard-woking person, also a devoted father and husband. I still have plenty of time to waste on the internet, including Clipmarks. I also have to time to read. It is the most important activity for the devlopement and acuity of the mind (the internet does not count). It does not take too much time to knock out 30 pages a day. It's just a matter of effort and desire I guess. I have no desire to veg-out in front of the TV, unless it is for a football game.
8-23-2007 2:54 PM
Hawkeye_84
Several years ago I was one of the four not reading a book a year. Now I read, on average 12-14 books annually. Phases in life tend to drive the numbers, I believe.
8-23-2007 11:56 PM
RecordSage
Can't argue with the importance factor, willhelm, but I can't seem to manage the same... besides reading Deaver only 30 pages at a time would be considered... self-abuse If you haven't read any of his stuff - try the Vanishing Man, you'll see what I mean.

I think another part of the reason why people read less is the whole audio element (audio books, podcasts). On my last trip to Idaho I drove and bought a book on CD. Filled up 7 hours nicely, the book was somewhat abridged, but not excessively so... it was a great book and so certainly another way to take in books.
8-24-2007 12:07 AM
willhelm
another part of the reason why people read less is the whole audio element (audio books, podcasts).
I cannot disagree with that. I am addicted to podcasts.
8-24-2007 12:35 AM
djkraz
Though I haven't actually read a book in many years, I really wish I could find the time. When I'm not working on clipmarks or with my family I'm trying to get the few remaining minutes I have doing something I enjoy like building things or cooking.

Also, I realized I may have read willhelm's comment wrong. If you are saying not reading is idiotic, then I completely agree. If you are saying that one is or becomes an idiot due to lack of reading then I disagree. Yes reading can make you "smarter" but you need not be an idiot to begin with.
8-24-2007 12:45 AM
willhelm
If you are saying that one is or becomes an idiot due to lack of
reading then I disagree. Yes reading can make you "smarter" but you
need not be an idiot to begin with.
No, I don't think that at all. I think reading helps to inform, apply logic, and expand horizons. I do not think one stupid if they do not read. For me, it is enjoyment. I recognize for others it may be a burden and not enjoyable. You can certainly attain knowledge and wisdom by any number of ways, I just think reading a lot of books is the most beneficial way.
8-24-2007 6:00 AM
RecordSage
Well-read doesn't automatically mean wise. There have been plenty of examples in history where the simplest, pretty uneducated men came up with all kinds of wisdom.

Kind of like education... it's certainly needed and useful but no guarantee... my father had the highest education attainable in the old country (and they take their education seriously there)... the man until this day has no common sense.

I think also another big factor is what kinds of books one reads. Probably even more important than how many.
8-24-2007 6:02 AM
RecordSage
Well-read doesn't automatically mean wise. There have been plenty of examples in history where the simplest, pretty uneducated men came up with all kinds of wisdom.

Kind of like education... it's certainly needed and useful but no guarantee... my father had the highest education attainable in the old country (and they take their education seriously there)... the man until this day has no common sense.

I think also another big factor is what kinds of books one reads. Probably even more important than how many.
8-24-2007 10:52 AM
bignosemousie
I believe there is value in reading most anything. Even the back of the cereal box. It is one of the best ways to improve a person's writing skills.

I read directions (or warning labels) in other languages to practice my skills. LOL, esp. since the translation is right there with it. Does anyone else do that?
8-24-2007 5:28 PM
RecordSage
@bignosemousie - We should put together a web site of warning labels in various languages... you select the language you speak and the site automatically displays all kinds of labels in another language... then you could subscribe to the RSS feed on your cell and presto - instant gratification regardless where you are

I respectfully disagree with you on the value of reading anything. Even many bestsellers that come out these days read more like screenplays than books. If you take someone like Pushkin (sorry to go the Russian way, just someone I'm very familiar with) - there's NOBODY in today's world that can write as well as him. Probably same could be said about Shakespeare. And I t...
8-24-2007 5:55 PM
ratilfar
Then the question is of quality, not quantity.
8-24-2007 7:41 PM
bignosemousie
RecordSage, I think something is better than nothing, when reading. I believe reading has value, whatever the source. Now, quality is a subjective word, no?
8-24-2007 7:42 PM
bignosemousie
Oh, RecordSage, thanks for the great idea on the RSS feed. LOL. I'm sure I'd be the only one subscribed.
8-24-2007 8:06 PM
willhelm
Then the question is of quality, not quantity.
Let the book burning begin.
8-24-2007 8:39 PM
ratilfar
Ok...thats one giant leap of...well just a giant leap into a deep void.

8-24-2007 8:55 PM
digits
Whites read more than blacks and Hispanics, and those who said they never attend religious services read nearly twice as many as those who attend frequently.

Democrats and liberals typically reading slightly more books

I am not African American or Hispanic and I do not attend worship services. I am also an Independent. I read voraciously.

I think there is much sound logic in the findings. Even as simple as attending religious services...I can easily believe that those who do not attend regularly read twice as much due to not believing the answer to life, for example, to be found in a pulpit of preaching but maybe in the gnosis that only certain books or even ancient...
8-24-2007 8:59 PM
ratilfar
I think there is much sound logic in the findings. Even as simple as
attending religious services...I can easily believe that those who do
not attend regularly read twice as much due to not believing the answer
to life, for example, to be found in a pulpit of preaching but maybe in
the gnosis that only certain books or even ancient texts would reveal.
This is why I read the books I read for example.
Thats very interesting and admirable. Reading should be an important part of all our lives.
8-24-2007 10:55 PM
skwirlinator
I just finished ERB Under the Moons of Mars
8-24-2007 10:57 PM
willhelm
I just finished Horton Hears a Who.
8-25-2007 12:11 AM
skwirlinator
An AWESOME Concept!
Size IS relative
8-25-2007 2:19 AM
lorigrace
I like to read People Magazine and TV guide. I get my news from Katie Couric and my wisdom from Oprah.
8-25-2007 4:48 AM
RecordSage
Well, here's proof - someone actually does watch good old Katie... who would've thought...
8-26-2007 8:55 PM
willhelm
Quite funny. Also sad.
8-26-2007 9:03 PM
lorigrace
Where do you think the truth is told. Fox News. or maybe CNN. It does not take alot to know they are all liars. The truth is in the small people turning over the rocks on the web.
8-26-2007 9:05 PM
skwirlinator
I bet Oprah gives great warm fuzzy hugs, eh, lorigrace?
8-28-2007 5:27 PM
RecordSage
@lorigrace, so if what you're saying is true, that would mean that Katie falls in the same camp (of total liars), which begs a question why you'd watch her at all? Perhaps for her good looks or her exceptional charisma and attitude?

btw, fyi, there are no 'rocks' on the net, just sites.... full of people who say what they say because they can, not because of any standards, accountability or regulations and if you think that's somehow more 'true' than what's on TV news - you need to get a reality check.
8-28-2007 9:29 PM
lorigrace
I guess you can believe what you want mr. Recodsage. Different strokes for different folks.
8-29-2007 5:13 AM
RecordSage
Totally agree with you on that one. And it's RecordSage for the record... no pun intended...
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