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10-20-2007 1:17 PM
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10-20-2007 2:39 PM
michaelll
¤¤¤Not everyone likes her work, Rowling said, likely referring to Christian groups that have alleged the books promote witchcraft. Her news about Dumbledore, she said, will give them one more reason.¤¤¤


I am not for Christian groups or the way they do their business but i suspect this is just a way for Rowlings to hit back, and if so, it's really sad that she chose to use the gay movement as a punchbag.
10-20-2007 3:43 PM
debbyski
I don't agree. The book was written a long time ago, and the character was already put in place. Of course, it is only known to her if she wrote the character with a homosexual orientation. Regardless, she isn't bashing her own character or her books, and it would be a strange way to try to get even with certain Christian groups who believe her books promote witchcraft. I believe it would only add fuel to the fire. So, I think she was just probably answering a question honestly and I find that refreshing.
10-20-2007 3:53 PM
michaelll
seems strange, what is the point in writing a character with a homosexual character if only she knows.

Surely if you are writing a book you would wish the readers to perceive the characters in the same way as you yourself did.

I have personally not read the books and know very little of Rowlings but it seems totally illogical to write a series of books and after they are all published and read to come out and say , oh by the way ???? was gay.
10-20-2007 4:08 PM
debbyski
I don't know Michaelll, a lot of writers leave a certain amount of mystery to their characters.
10-20-2007 4:10 PM
michaelll
Of course debbs, maybe i am just a natural born sceptic......
10-20-2007 4:18 PM
debbyski
I probably take people a little too much at their word too Michaelll . . .
10-20-2007 4:37 PM
michaelll
with this revelation what would really be interesting is how a new book would be received if she ever decided to write another, or is Harry dead? i don't read the books...
10-20-2007 5:08 PM
debbyski
My daughter is a huge fan; I want to ask her about this tonight michaelll
10-20-2007 8:18 PM
Bodark
It's impossible for anyone except Rowling to know the truth, but I'd like to think she outed Dumbledore just to irritate the Christian rightwingers. Why not? They aren't fans of her work and never will be so why not give them a poke in the eye for the fun of it?
10-21-2007 3:35 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
I agree with Bodark. I think she's being "nya nya" and good on her!
10-21-2007 5:04 AM
Reddragonlady
Actually, Dumbledore's being gay was alluded to rather subtly in the final book. The revelation does explain much of what motivated him in his earlier life. I admit that I missed it at the time, mostly, I suspect because I wasn't looking for such themes in a child's book. The more fool I! I really don't think that his being gay was a shot at the Christian right, but her comments on CNN could be construed as such.
10-21-2007 5:14 AM
zasel
Dumbledore is gay! Wow, what a revelation. I don't get it at all. To me, if a character is gay, why not mention it in the various books in which he appears? I enjoy Potter, but knowing that Rowling considers Dumbledore to be gay changes nothing about the books or films. Quite frankly, it just seems foolish to me.

I love that Rowling is showing support and appreciation for the LGBT community with her comments, and I do not fault her for that a whit. But I really wish she would have revealed this fact within the story of the books themselves, so that the gay character could have a hopefully positive effect on its readers, and not wait until all the books are written and then break the news...
10-21-2007 12:33 PM
ouyangwulong
Hey, is it just me or is that kind of a weird reply?

Asked: Does he find love? Answer: He's gay.

What does that mean? What does being gay have anything to do with finding love or not?

She is no doubt well meaning, but is this really support for the LGBT community? Stereotypes can be just as oppressive as intolerance. It seems this comment is emphasizing the "otherness" of gays when we should really be coming to understand how they are the same as everyone else.

Why not take pot-shots at the wacko right? (I admit, I'm guilty of indulging in that myself from time to time) Because these people derive a significant amount of their power from a sense of being threatened. They have used a "sie...
10-21-2007 12:42 PM
BobbyRutan
If you read the article from the San Francisco Chronicle covering this you will understand how smart J K Rowling is (looking back it may have been a comment to the story).

Had she outed Dumbledore from the very beginning book sales probably would have been hurt if the story wasn't outrighted dismissed.

Now that Harry Potter and Dubledore are iconic figures in our culture it helps the LGBT community be accepted. The feeling will be more "oh I guess it isn't so bad to be gay".

Which hopefully evolves to "who cares what your personal sexual orientation is".
10-21-2007 1:23 PM
handleriii
Either way and for whatever the intent of the "outing" it turned out to be an excellent Marketing/PR strategy for the Author...because whether you agree or disagree...here we are still discussing it, and on so many different levels.

(On a side note, who gives a rat' arse about what the Christian Right peeps think anyway...unless you are one? They are responsible for using the mass media to their advantage, too. They really should NOT throw stones at anybody! They do not hold any moral high ground on anyone or any group...so feel free to offend away!)

What does that mean? What does being gay have anything to do with finding love or not?
I think you have to co...
10-21-2007 5:24 PM
Reddragonlady
Okay, I HAVE to ask: How many of us have actually read the books? Addressing the question of will he find love, he DID find it, then had to all but destroy the love of his life in a magical battle to preserve humankind. None of this was revealed until the final book, so outing Dumbledore earlier would not have worked. JKR's motives for handling it the way she did were artistic, not poliltical.
10-22-2007 10:04 AM
thinkingblue
All this deep thinking dialog on whether or not a fictional character is homosexual is too funny. Especially since the Harry Potter series is of a fairytale nature and everyone knows the characters are not real everyday life human beings. Everyone that is except the Christian Right... Those nutties look at the world LITERALLY in every sense. To worry about the sex life of cartoon drawings or make-believe personalities seems like a waste of time. Most things religious fundamentalist view as real, is... so a waste of time ... But I guess they really have lot's of time to waste since they never do any questioning.

Read this funny story below from Salon.com
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Crazed right-wing morali...
10-22-2007 10:07 AM
thinkingblue
Popeye the Sailor Man, the animated embodiment of testosterone, lived in terror of being outed, as it would have ended his lucrative career. "Bluto threatened me with that a couple of times," he confesses. "I always wondered about him, though. He was so hyper-masculine, always swaggering around like he had something to prove." He sighs and leans back against the antique sofa. "Maybe I'm just projecting, though. I did a fair amount of macho posturing myself."
First making the scene in 1929 as a bit player in a comic strip, Popeye became an immediate success. The series was finally renamed for him, and movies followed. In the '30s, Popeye's films were even more popular than Mickey Mouse's.
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10-22-2007 4:35 PM
debbyski
Wonderful comments thinking blue!
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