Love the hard drive/grinder. Would you call that a Whet disc ? I remember once they said DVD's, and CD's would last forever (Well nearly.) I suppose it depends what you do with them. There must be millions of old P.C.s In cupboards that are either forgotten, or were planned to be repaired, or used for parts, when they have become obsolete. Admitting its over for an old unit, is one of the best ways to find out what is in the box without worrying about wrecking it, (You'll still wreck it it, but you wont worry.)Then when you find out, use your imagination to work out what they might have been for-then think sideways. I still can't stop thinking about the number of possibilities for old CDs, and DVDs