The International Atomic Energy Commission, and UN, have stated that there is no evidence Iran is planning, desiring, or working on nuclear weapons production.

It is impossible to disprove a false hood (i.e. "Iran is lying, they want nuclear weapons"), by those who merely allege and repeat lies. It is not impossible to prove that Bush, Cheney, and the neocon-influenced media have lied to the American people. Verifiable evidence of a specific imminent threat is required to conduct just war. Iran has not threatened Israel militarily, but made it clear they do not want or plan war. But Israel and the U.S. have and continue to threaten Iran, and are bringing together France (with their Moss...

The International Atomic Energy Commission, and UN, have stated that there is no evidence Iran is planning, desiring, or working on nuclear weapons production.

It is impossible to disprove a false hood (i.e. "Iran is lying, they want nuclear weapons"), by those who merely allege and repeat lies. It is not impossible to prove that Bush, Cheney, and the neocon-influenced media have lied to the American people. Verifiable evidence of a specific imminent threat is required to conduct just war. Iran has not threatened Israel militarily, but made it clear they do not want or plan war. But Israel and the U.S. have and continue to threaten Iran, and are bringing together France (with their Mossad President) and Germany (Merkel also a Zionist) to do it--i.e. a democratic gang.

As far as Iraq you can check the first hand testimony of a U.S. expert, former Marine and U.S. weapons inspector Scott Ritter, who confirmed Saddam was disarmed of all WMD in 1995. The Israelis had no justification for bombing Iraq's nuclear power plant, an act of war against a sovereign country.

Every country should have a right to nuclear power, and as long as other countries have nuclear weapons, why not everyone else? U.S. government (hijacked by neocon Zionists) is playing world dictator.

you are naive enough to think Iran is a peaceful nation with peaceful intentions for their nuclear power

This of course is a viewpoint held by some which could also be called one sided.

If you are going to start a war with global implications it would be wise to be sure that there is a justifiable reason for doing so.
The mere speculation that Iran "may" in the future go down that road is not sufficient , and if they do decide to go down the road of nuclear weapons then we will know about it.


The argument usually goes " must we wait for the mushroom cloud".


Get with it, you cannot move on this planet without someone spying on you and the idea that Iran or anyone else c...

you are naive enough to think Iran is a peaceful nation with peaceful intentions for their nuclear power

This of course is a viewpoint held by some which could also be called one sided.

If you are going to start a war with global implications it would be wise to be sure that there is a justifiable reason for doing so.
The mere speculation that Iran "may" in the future go down that road is not sufficient , and if they do decide to go down the road of nuclear weapons then we will know about it.


The argument usually goes " must we wait for the mushroom cloud".


Get with it, you cannot move on this planet without someone spying on you and the idea that Iran or anyone else could take the Nuclear technology they gain from power generation, quickly adapt to weapons, build and launch a device against anyone is really just not plausible.

No, I am not Arabic. But are you a communist like the neoconservatives who are disciples of Leon Trotsky? Read about them before you believe them. Their goal is for the revolution (overturning) of all non-democratic governments to prevent any potential future "rivals" to power--i.e. for "global hegemony".

You can call yourself anything, but you're so one-sided and naive and seem perfectly willing to accept the terrorist side to arguements, fine. However I still think, no I know, you're just a lousily terrorist sympathizer to damn dishonest to own up to it.

You can simply shove your claim that I'm a communist. Guess moronic loons like yourself label anyone a communi...

No, I am not Arabic. But are you a communist like the neoconservatives who are disciples of Leon Trotsky? Read about them before you believe them. Their goal is for the revolution (overturning) of all non-democratic governments to prevent any potential future "rivals" to power--i.e. for "global hegemony".

You can call yourself anything, but you're so one-sided and naive and seem perfectly willing to accept the terrorist side to arguements, fine. However I still think, no I know, you're just a lousily terrorist sympathizer to damn dishonest to own up to it.

You can simply shove your claim that I'm a communist. Guess moronic loons like yourself label anyone a communist who actually does not goose-step to your drummer, like I said shove it dopey.

Oh genius, thanks for letting me know that Afghanistan was not involved in 9/11. You are no doubt the dummest SOB, and this statement the absolutely most idiotic one about Afghanistan NOT being involved in 9/11.

You dope, of course Aghanistan was involved, not it's people, only it's geographical location, it's ruling party and OBL, so knock it off you loon, only other idiots like yourself are going to buy into that crap.

Well blueridge a few things:

Regarding the my use of the term "U.S." was something of a misnomer. I should have specified that I was referring to members of the U.S. goverment, not the entire nation or the entire goverment. Using such a term to denote a monolithic political/ideological block misses the point entirely. They would have leaked this to the times to either put pressure on Iran or on the bulk of U.S. policy makers. Using proxies is a dicey proposition either way.


Now, as far as Israeli capabilities, they have shown in the past that they can strike long range targets (Iraq, Tunisia), but considering the terrain and the distance, the IDF/AF does not have the capabilities to laun...

Well blueridge a few things:

Regarding the my use of the term "U.S." was something of a misnomer. I should have specified that I was referring to members of the U.S. goverment, not the entire nation or the entire goverment. Using such a term to denote a monolithic political/ideological block misses the point entirely. They would have leaked this to the times to either put pressure on Iran or on the bulk of U.S. policy makers. Using proxies is a dicey proposition either way.


Now, as far as Israeli capabilities, they have shown in the past that they can strike long range targets (Iraq, Tunisia), but considering the terrain and the distance, the IDF/AF does not have the capabilities to launch a sustain aerial campaign over such distances, which is what would be required to ensure that all nuclear targets are destroyed. My guess that the IDF would also like to keep the bulk forces in reserve to deal with any flare ups (that is to bomb the hell out of) in the Golan Heights or Lebanon.

Unless the Israelis make a nuclear first strike, such a campaign is out of their reach, unless the Saudis and perhaps the Turks join in, which is unlikely.

dl211--

Look at the FBI's website for "Mosted wanted terrorists" and you will see the OBL's poster does not list him as "wanted" for the 9/11 attacks. When asked about this the FBI replied:

"The reason the Bin Laden poster does not list him as wanted for the Sept. 11 attacks is because there is no hard evidence linking bin Laden to 9/11".
-- Rex Tomb, FBI spokesman (Google it)

OBL also publicly denied Sept. 28, 2001 any knowledge or involvement in 9/11, in the Pakistani press Ummat, in an interview. This is an undeniable fact, picked up by BBC monitoring service. (Later the gov't claimed he "boasted" on a spurious and conveniently recovered video tape, which showed a right han...

dl211--

Look at the FBI's website for "Mosted wanted terrorists" and you will see the OBL's poster does not list him as "wanted" for the 9/11 attacks. When asked about this the FBI replied:

"The reason the Bin Laden poster does not list him as wanted for the Sept. 11 attacks is because there is no hard evidence linking bin Laden to 9/11".
-- Rex Tomb, FBI spokesman (Google it)

OBL also publicly denied Sept. 28, 2001 any knowledge or involvement in 9/11, in the Pakistani press Ummat, in an interview. This is an undeniable fact, picked up by BBC monitoring service. (Later the gov't claimed he "boasted" on a spurious and conveniently recovered video tape, which showed a right handed, instead of left handed bin Laden, with poor video and audio, translated of course for us).

Therefore, there is no hard evidence (argue with the FBI if you want, not me) that OBL had any involvement in 9/11 (unless you think he would say two different things publicly to the world), and on the very day of 9/11 the Taliban said OBL was not with them, and that they too condemned the attacks and had no part in it.

OBL also died in Dec. 2001, his funeral reported in Egyptian newspaper, and by Fox and CNN. The latter videos were pure propaganda given to news outlets by private, neocon-related, "terrorism experts" (e.g. Site).

Those who do not deal with these facts are willingly ignorant, but I will no longer cast my pearls before swine. I write this for the benefit of others who might read this line of argument, pepper with insults from a troll incapable of debate. (Ad hominim attacks are the last refuge of the ignorant and desperate).

I will speak of and state facts whenever necessary to refute the propaganda. I challenge you to prove your own assertion as to the obvious reasons, you claim, why the U.S. invaded Afghanistan after 9/11. Stand up like a man, and list the evidence that the Taliban was involved in 9/11, or the evidence that OBL was involved in your reply (something the FBI claims they cannot). Evidence and proof, not repetitious assertions. Condi Rice said she would provide proof, but never did. Your hero Bush says "I dont really care where he is....if he's even alive" (2002).

Can you do it? This is a challenge. If not, fly off my thread and post you scavenging buzzard, or I will report y...

I will speak of and state facts whenever necessary to refute the propaganda. I challenge you to prove your own assertion as to the obvious reasons, you claim, why the U.S. invaded Afghanistan after 9/11. Stand up like a man, and list the evidence that the Taliban was involved in 9/11, or the evidence that OBL was involved in your reply (something the FBI claims they cannot). Evidence and proof, not repetitious assertions. Condi Rice said she would provide proof, but never did. Your hero Bush says "I dont really care where he is....if he's even alive" (2002).

Can you do it? This is a challenge. If not, fly off my thread and post you scavenging buzzard, or I will report you for your continuous spam of senseless abuse and insults, since you are unable to to debate or prove even one point of what you say. The only ones who need mental help are those who do not use their brains and repeat the same mantra without evidence in the face of contradictions. We will see who the moron is, and ignoramus, by your reply...if you dare attempt it. Everyone will watch to see if you can.