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1-18-2007 7:48 PM
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willhelm says:
My wife has always told me I tip too much. Genearally 15-20% depending on the service. I am considering no longer tipping at all. Any thoughts?
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1-18-2007 9:40 PM
ericskiff
To be honest, I tip wait staff for putting up with my @#$@^ for an hour or two.
1-18-2007 11:08 PM
coconutshell
If there's a service charge, I usually tip the same amount, more or less....but more if I was pleased with the service...I stick with about 20%.

Bonus points if the waiter/waitress doesn't come over to ask how the food is just when you've shoved a forkful in your mouth...I think it's a conspiracy....or a way to entertain themselves....
1-18-2007 11:10 PM
willhelm
Bonus points if the waiter/waitress doesn't come over to ask how the
food is just when you've shoved a forkful in your mouth...I think it's
a conspiracy....
Oh, so true. I usually just have to signal OK with my fingers. It never fails.
1-19-2007 2:51 AM
BartendingBear
My wife has always told me I tip too much. Generally 15-20% depending on the service. I am considering no longer tipping at all. Any thoughts?
Yes, here are a couple for you...

The govt. assumes an 8% tip, regardless of if the customer gives one. If I serve a $10.00 drink (I work in a hotel where prices are reasonably high, particularly in this market. Absolute rocks - $7.25, Bailey's rocks - $9.25, and a Grey Goose Martini - $10.00.) the govt. assumes that you gave me an 80¢ tip, even if you didn't. Such will be reported to the IRS on my behalf by my employer. So, if you're a brain-dead non-tipping tight-wad, it cost me the tax on 80¢, about 20¢, for the privilege of serving...
1-19-2007 5:46 PM
willhelm
The govt. assumes an 8% tip, regardless of if the customer gives one.
That sounds like an issue between the server and the government. Why bring me into it?

So, if you're a brain-dead non-tipping tight-wad,
This type of attitude is the reason why I probably will no longer tip. Believe me, I am no tight wad. However, I think the money I save in tips would be better spent given to charity.

Tips are not an entitlement, they are a gratuity. To assume it is owed to you, whether you are the best in the service industry or not, is an unacceptable attitude in my view. Your attutude should be one of thanks regardless of the amount. As for that customer goes, at least...
10-13-2007 11:46 AM
Shaunna
Willhelm:

Right On !

Tipping can promote an antagonistic division between the customer (who might perceive the service as mediocre), and the server (who assumes the tip is a given). Why are the customers put this position and why are we expected to participate as a financial planner for the server ? Why is it the customer’s job to provide the restaurant’s employees an incentive to perform? Isn’t that the job of the restaurant manager/owner ? The customer’s only involvement should be assessing the quality of the food, service, and atmosphere, and determining if it’s worth a future visit. What if this insanity was the norm for every industry out there ?
11-17-2008 12:48 AM
snikiddy
I understand where your coming from but may I ask you all a question? When you go out to eat do you expect better service at a restaurant than you would at McDonalds? I have been a server for 3 years and as such we either get paid the same or less than a fast food employee, yet give better service, food and atmospher. We take our Jobs very seriously and personally, and when we serve a table we give it our all. We want you to have a good time, we want you to be able to relax, and at the same time we hope to be rewarded for it. No we should not expect it, but sometimes we do because we worked so hard for you, and its not an easy job. We have to be able to remember the orders of 4-8 differ...
3-7-2009 3:40 AM
mamajules75
maybe you don't realize that most servers are only paid 2.13 per hour and are taxed, in some cases, on the amount of their sales. so if you don't tip at least 15%, they are paying to wait on you! if you don't feel that you should have to tip, do something to change the labor laws. in the meantime, be kind and remember that your server is a human being just like you--perhaps working hard to support a family. however, if you feel that you have been given rude or lazy service, tell the manager immediately! if you don't tip and don't complain, we just assume you are cheap!
3-7-2009 3:56 AM
willhelm
if you don't feel that you should have to tip, do something to change the labor laws.
It's not my duty to change the labor laws regarding waiter and waitresses. It is a problem for the server and government to handle. I'll gladly pay the fair market price for food and service.

remember that your server is a human being just like you
Thanks for reminding me. ugh.

we just assume you are cheap!
Why should I care if you assume I am cheap? You think that motivates me to tip more? LOL!

How would you feel if instead of giving a tip I leave a receipt showing a 25% tip in the form of a donation to the Harvest Food Bank?
3-7-2009 11:36 AM
dl211
So, if you're a brain-dead non-tipping tight-wad, it cost me the tax on 80¢, about 20¢, for the privilege of serving you, with a freakin' smile no less. It doesn't seem like a lot, but add that up to say 60 drinks served on a busy shift, and it really takes a bite out of the net for the night.
So now bear realizes just how unfair obama's tax plan of spreading the wealth around really is...

Seems he dislikes non-tippers since it deprives him of his 'earned' revenues...

Why is this so unlike obama's spread the wealth? Obama just wants bear and all the other bartenders to kick in their fare share to spread it around to all those other bartenders who provide lous...
3-7-2009 5:37 PM
Rustee
Excellent points Willhelm. I've always had an issue with the social standards of tipping.
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