<<Once the land was taken from these estates, it would be redistributed to the settlers. The landless Irish would be forced to move west, to settle in places like the Burren in Clare known “to have not wood enough to hang a man, water enough to drown him, nor earth enough to bury him.” The price the Irish paid for Cromwell’s settlement was dear, but the price the English paid may have been even more dear: “... the price he [the Irishman] had to pay for his life also purchased his enmity for generations yet to come. Within the very wording of the Ordinance were to be found the seeds of its own destruction.” (D.M.R. Esson in The Curse of Cromwell).

The map of Ireland ...

<<Once the land was taken from these estates, it would be redistributed to the settlers. The landless Irish would be forced to move west, to settle in places like the Burren in Clare known “to have not wood enough to hang a man, water enough to drown him, nor earth enough to bury him.” The price the Irish paid for Cromwell’s settlement was dear, but the price the English paid may have been even more dear: “... the price he [the Irishman] had to pay for his life also purchased his enmity for generations yet to come. Within the very wording of the Ordinance were to be found the seeds of its own destruction.” (D.M.R. Esson in The Curse of Cromwell).

The map of Ireland showing the hurtful and cruel settlement of Ireland was a well thought out theoretical plan of diabolic inspiration. Looking at the map from east to west, a reader can see that the least able to resist another Irish rising, i.e., wounded veterans and the widows of those killed in action, were given land in the north of Dublin County and a small portion of Cork around Youghal. The original [b]Pale[//b] around Dublin, over the years the securest area in Ireland for the English, was to be extended. Thought to be relatively secure in their proximity to Dublin and the Irish Sea, these counties were to be for the “special planting” of friends of Parliament.

All of Clare, Galway , Roscommon and most of Mayo was reserved as an enclave for the surviving Irish. The English plan was to pen in the Irish west of the Shannon River, which was seen as a defensible border, with the ocean to the west. Where the Shannon was not available in the Northwest, the military settlement would seal this area. All of the islands off the coast of the enclave were cleared of the Irish or used for special purposes, such as the internship camp for priests on Inisbofin. Inside this prison without bars the English hoped to make the hardcore Irish leadership impotent, there being no ports, no war industries, no fortresses, and no natural defences. All confiscate...

All of Clare, Galway , Roscommon and most of Mayo was reserved as an enclave for the surviving Irish. The English plan was to pen in the Irish west of the Shannon River, which was seen as a defensible border, with the ocean to the west. Where the Shannon was not available in the Northwest, the military settlement would seal this area. All of the islands off the coast of the enclave were cleared of the Irish or used for special purposes, such as the internship camp for priests on Inisbofin. Inside this prison without bars the English hoped to make the hardcore Irish leadership impotent, there being no ports, no war industries, no fortresses, and no natural defences. All confiscated land was to be transferred on 26 September 1653 and all unauthorized Irish were to be in Connaught or Hell by 1 May 1654. >>


The Zionist must be reading up on Irish history in how they treat the Palestinians today with the WALL and the settlements. Should they not also remember "The Curse of Cromwell" above and realise that they are only guaranteeing future enemies. “... the price he [the Irishman] had to pay for his life also purchased his enmity for generations yet to come. Within the very wording of the Ordinance were to be found the seeds of its own destruction.”

Thanks. & Most valid points to consider.
(and a lot of folks, Brits even, don't get any knowledge of this history).

The comparisons to the early European, (English, Spanish, etc.) and subsequent policies of early America to the Native America Indian quickly leap to mind.

Interestingly enough it was a Scott-Irish Presbyterian President --- who's father and mother were born in Carrickfergus, County Antrim -- who most confirmed and put into official policy and law the idea of forced relocation of native tribes: Andrew Jackson, and he was well aware of Cromwell.

Well...the Scott-Irish Presbyterians were noted for sure being tough people.

The good side of all this is the current situation: no...

Thanks. & Most valid points to consider.
(and a lot of folks, Brits even, don't get any knowledge of this history).

The comparisons to the early European, (English, Spanish, etc.) and subsequent policies of early America to the Native America Indian quickly leap to mind.

Interestingly enough it was a Scott-Irish Presbyterian President --- who's father and mother were born in Carrickfergus, County Antrim -- who most confirmed and put into official policy and law the idea of forced relocation of native tribes: Andrew Jackson, and he was well aware of Cromwell.

Well...the Scott-Irish Presbyterians were noted for sure being tough people.

The good side of all this is the current situation: no more slavery; no more genocide of the Native American Indians; no idea at all, in any way, of having some sort of militia groups of these groups fighting each other or anything...but this is certainly after several hundred years of violence.

It's nice to think that after several hundred years of violence in Ireland that perhaps now it's all cooled off.

The apartheid and violence and racial hatreds stirred up by Israel are a great danger, I believe (and the committment resistence to invasion, violence and racial hatreds of Arabs, etc. is now also part of the equation)

Maybe the eventually Irish settlements and cooperation could provide some example...or the example of how the USA moved from hundreds of years of slavery to now having a black candidate for President of the United States...amazing...but it was no easy trip but it was done.

(getting the right to vote was a biggie)

Strange for me in compiling this with my finger pointing to the M-East was my realising how often my race came to being TOTALLY eliminated from the map.

A large part of this cleansing was because we stubbornly held to our Catholic faith. We lost all our possessions, our land, our dignity, our language, everything. Being Irish and Catholic became as one. Now we are free, being religious doesn't matter!

Another 'race' believes they were the victim race. Yes here and there, at one time or another, they were victims. However, if I'm to judge there claims today as representative of there claims for the past and the huge myths they've created for stealing Palestinian land, then I've every...

Strange for me in compiling this with my finger pointing to the M-East was my realising how often my race came to being TOTALLY eliminated from the map.

A large part of this cleansing was because we stubbornly held to our Catholic faith. We lost all our possessions, our land, our dignity, our language, everything. Being Irish and Catholic became as one. Now we are free, being religious doesn't matter!

Another 'race' believes they were the victim race. Yes here and there, at one time or another, they were victims. However, if I'm to judge there claims today as representative of there claims for the past and the huge myths they've created for stealing Palestinian land, then I've every reason to doubt their claim of their victim past. Even if I was to believe their worse case scenario, I don't believe their case for victimhood nation measures up to our Irish history.

If anyone is interested I could expand more on this?