 papananook says: The civil war in Burma/Myanmar has been oin on for 60 years...so much for war solving problems. I don't think anyone ever advocated the war as the solution... and it certainly doesn't solve all problems, but neither does your comment. Gee, I wonder why we keep going to war, then...SOMEBODY is advocating (and supporting) war as a solution to something! We're gonna spend like 3 TRILLION $$$ on the current fiasco and Congress keeps voting the funds--that's advocating, man...And EXCUUUUUUZE me for commenting in my own frickin' clip, dood. I was just pointin out that 60 years of a futile civil war has produced nothing better than a bunch of generals who don't even care about their own people. A rotten fruit I find sadly ironic and even relevant to the USA's idiotic occupations in Iraq and AFGHANISTAN! yESE, I'M YELLINGG, 'CUZ I DESPISE IDIOTIC REMARKS LIKE YOURS!!! DAMN! It was really dumb. Pop any vessels? No? Keep yelling then... I was writing metaphorically...I wouldn't waste my breath (or raise my blood pressure) on statements like "I don't think anyone ever advocated the war as the solution"...duh! Your comments were meaningless, in other words... ok, fair enough. Not that I want to belabor the point, but some wars did solve problems in the past. Napoleon and hitler would be a couple... I'm sure there were more. Man, are you really onna o there?...No my comments weren't meaningless...just my tone a bit edgy. if Greedy industrialists, mostly American, including Bush's Grandad, hadn't help tool up Germany and Japan--there never would have been a need to fight a Hitler or Tojo. I tend to look at the causes of wars and wonder why humans still let it (or make it) happen. Of course, a lot of people get rich in wartime, just like now. Bush... I see... well, if your theories were rubbers - they'd never break, if you catch my drift. There's no question that wars, especially in the past, were driven in part by greed, but that's not at all the overall reason. There were egos, ambitions for land and plain old distraction for the masses not to dwell on their miserable lives. There were always all kinds of reasons and wars were the vehicles that made countries, borders etc. It usually starts out by people like you actually, if you listen to your rhetoric, where you're unwilling to exercise self-control and reason and basically spew your point of view regardless of the situation, circumstances etc. The other side then takes ... "It usually starts out by people like you"...unbelievable! I'm upset about this endless war, man OK? I'm angry...and I wonder where the outrage is from the so-called citizens of the USA...we're being ripped off and shamed on the world stage and we just go along. If that's just spewing my viewpoint regardless of situation or circumstances"---so be it. But then it's NOT. Go ahead--defend war...I'll never join in one, nor will my children nor theirs. If more people believed that--they would stop. This discussion is fruitless---you will never understand until it hits home how wrong war is. It's always someone upset at something or someone that starts it. That was my whole point. As for hitting close to home - I've lost my grandpa, many other relatives and it effectively played a major role in screwing up my mother's life... so don't preach me about 'hitting home' - it already had. And I'm NOT defending war or advocating one, I'm simply stating that sometimes it's unavoidable and in certain cases a necessary evil, that's all. As for the greed factor - check your IRA, see if you own any GE stock in your portfolio or mutual fund. Sorry...but I'm far too poor to own any stocks and certainly wouldn't invest in ANY war profiteering Company. Wadda think I am some wild-eyed young firebrand radical? That was 40 yrs ago. But you don't know me and I don't know you. My condolences on your family losses. And back then when I was upset--I was never violent and never spit on a returning vet (another urban myth). But I was upset enough to refuse to serve in the military and did alternate service after conviction...later was pardoned by Pres. Ford. I appreciate the sentiments... |
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