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Abusers don't care about the law, they do what they want anyway. A law won't change that, but it may give a wider avenue for prosecuting those who take this form of "discipline" a little too far. I am totally against any form of violence. Parental violence has nothing whatsoever to do with raising a child. It has everything to do with anger, frustration, venting and /or control. It isn't necessary and is more likely damaging to the psyche of the child, than it is beneficial. All violence and especially that aimed at children should be forbidden. I second Tncbt.. well said I think my favorite kind of "punishment" was hair pulling Alanocu, and I always preferred physical punishment to emotional abuse But thank you momma, holding close to my childhood memories forced me to be a much better parent. Ouch is right baby! My mother was the one who spanked us, but my father could give me a look of disappointment that would crush me for days! Believe me, that was much more affective. All violence and especially that aimed at children should be forbidden.and that includes TV violence. But don't worry, there will be no change in America. You cannot have a militaristic society if you don't beat your children. Just like with guns. Spanking teaches that one must be obeyed because they are bigger & stronger. Now if they are consenting adults -- that's something else... OMG!!!!! I just came from the market today and this 6 yr old cussed out his Mommy, now you can't tell me this child is going to grow up acting like this if it were my baby! .....HELLLLLLLLL NO!!!! Goodness my parents although foreign and strict they don't and won't take sh** k. Now if a child deserves punishment that is between the parent and the child I respect that, but I will not tolerate my child going bad and ending up in jail or being spanked by another adult! Children should be disciplined if they are horrible, but a parent must hold his anger! Irrationality causes more problems that needs be. goodness!! As for child abuse the state should make support and counciling acessable fo... For how often people think I'm a 'liberal,' or radical ex-hippie (this sometimes happens) it often seems to me I' a cruel conservative. Yippie. In fact, I feel I have 'common sense,' tinged with a bit of feeling if you mess with me (or others) then it's ok if we mess with you. As far as 'spanking,' is concerned I can't believe anyone who has been a parent could possibly believe they would be able to raise and control children without a sober use of force. By 'sober," I mean I'd advocate acting like a serious and thougthful adult. All cultures have such an adage like: "spare the rod and spoil the child." I wouldn't take this as blanket authority to kill your children, d'uh...in fact mo... It's never alone between you and YOUR child. How that child acts outside the house does depend on how you act within. I HATE state interference in how I raise my child but wait. If I never hit/beat my child then the state has no way in. If I'm not big/strong enough to control my child then attempting physical discipline might back fire. If I have not the wit enough to persuade my child then maybe I'm not fit as a parent. Many Irish return home from America when they have children to raise them here for no other reason than the 'environment' for their kids. Given your violent society, the last thing you need is any violence in the home. Europe now virtually bans beating any child. In my lifetime a female progressed in a legal document from after goods and chattels to now being absolutely equality as with blacks and slaves. Not quite there yet with children. I spent 5 years in a tough boarding school. We were beaten with tough leather straps. The teacher gave you a chit detailing the number of strokes. Within a week you had to 'cash' them in with the Dean of Discipline. No emotion nor anger on either side. Appeals usually failed. Parents fail to discipline without emotion. That more than the physical act is where the problem lies, IMO. Females in particular. They are masters/mistresses at repeating behaviour, good or bad, through the female line. Mothers drag fathe... I spanked my son ONCE when he was 2 months old.I gave him 2 fingers across the nose for spitting out food. It never happened again and now he is 22 and respects me and I think still remembers the nose because I intimidate him a little.Parents are the only ones who should raise children,not state.Sorry to hear that RH,My grandmother grew up in a convent in Ireland where she was locked in a closet for weeks at a time.People today have no idea about REAL abuse. Sorry to hear that RH,My grandmother grew up in a convent in Ireland where she was locked in a closet for weeks at a time.People today have no idea about REAL abuse.I'm fine. Boarding school was the most important and a very good time in my life. I told you to illustrate that discipline without emotion is what is important. Virtually impossible in the home. I was with the Jesuits who were virtual saints compared with many teaching then in Ireland. I entered a wimp and emerged a 2/3 confident person. I'd played rugby for my province, Munster, still the toughest and hardest of the 4 provinces. A totally spoiled ma's boy separated from home was the most traumatic and the most... I don't think this is something that should be illegal. I'm not necessarily for spanking, but I don't think it's an area the government should get involved in. In my opinion, spanking is not the same as abuse. A swat on the behind is not the same as being beaten. I do believe spanking should be a last resort and other forms of discipline should be tried first and are usually more effective. There's a great website that debates the use of spanking at www.opposingviews.com/questions/is-spanking-an-acceptable-form-of-discipline. Experts from both sides weigh in and discuss the issue...really good read! This is one of those subjects for which there isn't really a simple answer. There are certainly circumstances in which spanking a child is a bad thing. However, I have no doubt that in other situations it is the best thing to do. The difficulty with trying to make general statements is that so much depends on the child, on the parent (or teacher, or whoever), and on the context at the time. I feel that in my own family corporal punishment would probably be unhelpful, and I don't use it. This is not an ethical choice (I don't think that it would be morally wrong to use it), simply a practical one (in our circumstances, at present, other ways of maintaining discipline seem better). How... |
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