egoldstein says: I posted the video here. I feel that you have a very intelligent view on this but doubt there exists an easy to implement solution (but you already know that). One step could be to address the anonymous side of things by automatically including contact details for each post; this may slow people down a bit. Personally I have selected to include both my MSN and email just so I do think twice before replying and/or posting. As and aside, I only popped in to have a quick look and must confess that I very much enjoy this site so a thumbs up on that side. Good luck with your quest Hi Eric, I have not watched your messaged (will do from home tonight) but I personally think we should just learn to live with the human nature of things by carefully defining the set criteria of allowed etiquette. From an owner (of this website) perspective, all you can do is watch people for following the context when they're involved in any conversation. The trouble starts when we loose the context or allow the context to be lost. Anyway, I shouldn't say much without watching what you're saying, but as you know, this is my favorite topic thank you for posting this... i think you're addressing a really valid issue, and it's one that i see as the most important part of the clipmarks community. without the mutual repect and general politeness between users, the novelty of clipping information becomes useless to me. (if i just wanted to find compelling information, i could browse the internet.) what drew me to clipmarks specifically was that info from around the world is found in one place; what keeps me here the genuine, repectful nature of the users. it's really refreshing to see clippers interact in such a positive way (that is really conducive to learning!), and i hope that never changes. Well said...I find it difficult to disagree with anything in your statement. I hope this site continues to be a place where I can come to find interesting bits of the Web and to read intelligent, entertaining commentary. As members we should all realize what we have here and be prepared to help the founders protect the integrity and "spirit" of Clipmarks. That is why we are over here Hi egold, I had always wondered as to why people are wasting their time, money and energy on the e-social networking, exchanging comments and sharing things with one another, while they should be doing something worthwhile with their resources...and then the clipmarks had happened to me. I had realized that of course, people are doing something worthwhile in that time...exchanging happiness! By understanding, sharing thoughts and respecting one another, they develop an unspoken bond of feeling absolutely comfortable with their group..this feels really wonderful! thanks & bless you. I'm surprised at some of these comments. I have noticed for some time now that the things that are driving me away from Digg, for example, are starting to drive me away from this site. Digg used to be a site where people could get technology updates from around the web. Now it's simply a bastion of name-calling. I know well the tendency for people to use these types of sites to drive a particular religious or political point of view. That tendency itself is fine, but it always eventually descends into nastiness. This site is getting nastier by the day and I think your message is well overdue. Unless the constant religious and political "road rage" stops, I will leave here and not return. You... Ummm. I am confused by the two separate clips, with separate commentary. Wouldn't this be more useful to see them all in one place?? I have to admit, having been real busy the past few weeks, I've not been following what's going on on the Clipmarks front page.... so I wasn't even aware of an incipient problem. But, like I said in in the comments on the video clip, I trust your judgment. Well said, Eric. I've always enjoyed reading the discussions and debates that arise with the clips but there is a line that has to be drawn separating (somehow) heated arguments and sheer hostility. The worst part is that it ends up like a schoolyard squabble where it's just down to name-calling. Now someone has to send one or both parties for a "time-out." If everyone's going to act like children then they better get treated like children. (No offense to the kids.) on the other hand, think of it like this: when there is a society, there shall be all sorts of people. I am from the country where the diversity in opinions, religion, culture and in moods are so varied that you can not even start imagining...and then, I am from the same country where Mahatma was born & we are never allowed to forget that matter in our education curriculum & daily lives.. that is the balance! Patience, friends patience...whether you are the owner of the business or the people who enjoy visiting the site! It is easy to err and hurt others, but it is difficult to be patience and solve the issue, bec.every clipper is basically different from one another, from various countries... Great philosophizing, Eric. Kindness is underrated, and a lot of these "social networks" are filled with negative crap that does no one good. I do like that for the most part on Clipmarks, the comments I've seen here, the discussions I've participated in have been friendly, if not merely civil. I never want to see Clipmarks sink to the low of YouTube comments, and that's not just a generalization — head to just about any popular vid there, and shake your head at the uselessness of all the flames, spam, etc. (Strange that YouTube has an easy way to report spam comments, but not abuse.) Compare that with, say, highly-viewed pictures on Flickr, and how thoughtful many of those comments are. egoldstein, Your point taken. It is good to have some good objectives in place. OBJECTICALLY, we are all seekers of bigger perspectives. And the bigger perspectives are comprise of different perspectives. But, ironically, we S&S (slip and slide ), we end up becoming too SUBJECTIVE, and we scornfully pushed away some perspectives, when we should be gathering them, thankfully. We have to remind ourselves that, 1. There are no opposing views or perspectives. 2. All views or perspectives are complementary. (Whew! i finally got that pieced together. it is a good reminder for myself,too.) i guess i shouldn't ask if we have the same perspective? Am i also philosophizing? i guess it is contagious.) My point taken? |
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