So this clip is basically discounting the idea of evolution?
Considering fossils of dinosaurs have been found - yes, they are in museums and they were not created by Hollywood. Considering that Alligators and Crocks most likely evolved from dinosaurs, I cannot understand where these folks get there logic or thougths?

Since it was clipped from a Christian website, it would appear they are trying to argue that some divine being (aka God) simply reached down out the sky and put a male and female being here.

They take the Bible to literally. The Hebrew version (true version) of the first 5 books coincides with the idea of starting out from earth and evolving into a form,which we call man/wom...

So this clip is basically discounting the idea of evolution?
Considering fossils of dinosaurs have been found - yes, they are in museums and they were not created by Hollywood. Considering that Alligators and Crocks most likely evolved from dinosaurs, I cannot understand where these folks get there logic or thougths?

Since it was clipped from a Christian website, it would appear they are trying to argue that some divine being (aka God) simply reached down out the sky and put a male and female being here.

They take the Bible to literally. The Hebrew version (true version) of the first 5 books coincides with the idea of starting out from earth and evolving into a form,which we call man/women. Likewise the other species formed by God....

So this clip is basically discounting the idea of evolution?

Actually no this clip just reports about scientific study that unfortunately does not support the theory of evolution. However this same science seems to indicate a sameness amongst the species. This same science also seems to indicate that yes there was evolution but it happened at once and a long time ago.

Since it was clipped from a Christian website, it would appear they are
trying to argue that some divine being (aka God) simply reached down
out the sky and put a male and female being here.

OH because of the source it is unreliable? How about this link?
[url=http://www.americanchronicle.com/art...

So this clip is basically discounting the idea of evolution?

Actually no this clip just reports about scientific study that unfortunately does not support the theory of evolution. However this same science seems to indicate a sameness amongst the species. This same science also seems to indicate that yes there was evolution but it happened at once and a long time ago.

Since it was clipped from a Christian website, it would appear they are
trying to argue that some divine being (aka God) simply reached down
out the sky and put a male and female being here.

OH because of the source it is unreliable? How about this link?
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=18813


Same story different source and much more indepth.

Or are you just Christian bashing?

Unfortunately the world is made up of people who would rather believe anything as long as it does not include a belief in an absolute divine being we are all accountable to. It is far better to manufactor a belief system rather than accept the one that God set forth.

However. that being said it takes far more faith to believe in evolution considering there is absolutely no FACTs to support it than to believe in say Jesus Christ walked the earth. If in fact Jesus walked the earth then just perhaps there is evidence of God the Father manifested in Jesus Christ His Son.

Course people who believe in evolution oftimes do not believe in Jesus either.

But to add fuel to the fire here is anoth...

Unfortunately the world is made up of people who would rather believe anything as long as it does not include a belief in an absolute divine being we are all accountable to. It is far better to manufactor a belief system rather than accept the one that God set forth.

However. that being said it takes far more faith to believe in evolution considering there is absolutely no FACTs to support it than to believe in say Jesus Christ walked the earth. If in fact Jesus walked the earth then just perhaps there is evidence of God the Father manifested in Jesus Christ His Son.

Course people who believe in evolution oftimes do not believe in Jesus either.

But to add fuel to the fire here is another link you may find worthy of your dismissal.

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/AEF056D9-EE24-42F4-931E-8CDA15A15B83/

EW - Perhaps there was a man named Jesus that walked the earth, perhaps not.

I do believe however there is a divine being - whether one calls him Abba, Father, God, Allah, Buddah, El Shadiah, YVHV, Ainsof, etc. that really does not matter.

I cannot except the fact that a divine being would want to or need to manifest himself into a human form - there would be no reason. It is of course possible to imagine that he/she would provide special gifts to allow communication with itself to humans.

While I think the premise of Christianity has some good points in helping mankind - I would argue that if the New Testament is in fact the words from the man named Jesus - that our world has not r...

EW - Perhaps there was a man named Jesus that walked the earth, perhaps not.

I do believe however there is a divine being - whether one calls him Abba, Father, God, Allah, Buddah, El Shadiah, YVHV, Ainsof, etc. that really does not matter.

I cannot except the fact that a divine being would want to or need to manifest himself into a human form - there would be no reason. It is of course possible to imagine that he/she would provide special gifts to allow communication with itself to humans.

While I think the premise of Christianity has some good points in helping mankind - I would argue that if the New Testament is in fact the words from the man named Jesus - that our world has not really progressed in 4,000 years in following those teachings.

So regardless of the religon and regardless of whether the divine being will manifest iteself soon either the very first time or a second time - one thing is for certiain - Mankind has wrecked this planet, worn out our welcome, and have not lived as a global society by any of the teachings that any of the religons profess - so in essence the world is pretty much screwed!

I cannot except the fact that a divine being would want to or need to manifest
himself into a human form - there would be no reason.

The reason? For God so loved the world that He sent His son so whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

For all of sinned and come short of the glory of God therefore it was necessary for God to send a redeemer to redeem man from the curse of SIN and DEATH and to redeem the world back to HIMSELF.

one thing is for certiain - Mankind has wrecked this planet, worn out
our welcome, and have not lived as a global society by any of the
teachings that any of the religons profess - so in essence the world is
pret...

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I cannot except the fact that a divine being would want to or need to manifest
himself into a human form - there would be no reason.

The reason? For God so loved the world that He sent His son so whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

For all of sinned and come short of the glory of God therefore it was necessary for God to send a redeemer to redeem man from the curse of SIN and DEATH and to redeem the world back to HIMSELF.

one thing is for certiain - Mankind has wrecked this planet, worn out
our welcome, and have not lived as a global society by any of the
teachings that any of the religons profess - so in essence the world is
pretty much screwed!

That my friend is the REASON for JESUS' death and resurrection so that we are NOT SCREWED as you say. I have hope because my hope is built on the foundation of faith and trust in God's goodness manifested in His Son Jesus. I believe Jesus died to save me from myself so that I have hope of a future. ALBEIT it is not here but while I am here I am called and commanded to preach the GOOD NEWS to whomever will listen so that others can escape the condemnation of SIN AND DEATH.

Will you be willing to accept God's invitation through Christ to receive newness of life? He loves you as much as He loves me.
All you have to do is admit that you are despertaly in need of help because you have really SCREWED things up as you say and you see no hope for a brighter future.

Jesus is just waiting for you to let go and let God in.

Peace my friend may you too find hope in Christ.

It's not that the people you speak of, Eaglewings, would rather believe in anything but an almighty being-- it's just that, if we are going to believe in an almighty being, it damn sure better be an actual almighty being! A god who creates the world but somehow does not foresee it going horribly wrong, who blames human beings for the "design bugs" that he himself put there, and then, despite being composed entirely of love, despite being fully given to forgiveness, chooses to send his creations to an everlasting torture? And for those few that he does choose to save, he can't just do it, he has to go through the ridiculous soap opera of coming to earth in human form, preaching some un...

It's not that the people you speak of, Eaglewings, would rather believe in anything but an almighty being-- it's just that, if we are going to believe in an almighty being, it damn sure better be an actual almighty being! A god who creates the world but somehow does not foresee it going horribly wrong, who blames human beings for the "design bugs" that he himself put there, and then, despite being composed entirely of love, despite being fully given to forgiveness, chooses to send his creations to an everlasting torture? And for those few that he does choose to save, he can't just do it, he has to go through the ridiculous soap opera of coming to earth in human form, preaching some unintelligible message, and then dying on the cross so that a few credulous individuals will believe, while everyone else, the great majority, is still condemned to the fires of hell. Some "Almighty" God that is.

And yes, Jesus probably did actually walk the earth-- most non-Christians have no problem with that. Again, it's all about the evidence, and there happens to be evidence, albeit sparse, that there was a wacko teacher running around palestine in the early 1st century AD who was executed by the Romans for possibly trying to start an insurrection among the Jews. If you read some history, rather than just the propaganda you call the Bible, you would realize also that the schema of Jesus's birth, death, and resurrection fits a very prevalent mythical schema in the ancient world, which was also followed very closely by at least 16 other "Savior" figures, the most prominint being Mithras. Many of the ideas in Christianity are not original at all, and as you should know, the main idea of Christianity-- that Jesus died on the cross as a blood-atonement for the sin of Adam-- was not Jesus's idea at all, but Paul's.

Now. Let's clarify that I do believe in a Supreme Being-- you might call it the God of Spinoza-- and that I can read the New Testament in its original languages.

Now. Let's clarify that I do believe in a Supreme Being-- you might call it the
God of Spinoza-- and that I can read the New Testament in its original
languages. It's not about what we non-Christians "desperately want" to believe--
it's about what we am compelled to believe, usually by great amounts of
religious education, and devoted thinking on the issue. Which makes us,
ironically, more religious than you Christians.

The part that did not make the eidt:

Which makes us,
ironically, more religious than you Christians.

Religious yes perhaps, but lost nontheless. I shall be praying for you that the god of this age who has blinded your understanding to th...

Now. Let's clarify that I do believe in a Supreme Being-- you might call it the
God of Spinoza-- and that I can read the New Testament in its original
languages. It's not about what we non-Christians "desperately want" to believe--
it's about what we am compelled to believe, usually by great amounts of
religious education, and devoted thinking on the issue. Which makes us,
ironically, more religious than you Christians.

The part that did not make the eidt:

Which makes us,
ironically, more religious than you Christians.

Religious yes perhaps, but lost nontheless. I shall be praying for you that the god of this age who has blinded your understanding to the simplisity of the gospel will be removed so that you too can see the glorious light of God's word and experience His love through Christ Jesus my Lord and Savior.

Til then I shall be praying daily for you.