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7-24-2008 3:37 AM
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merrie says:
but multiculturalism hits a crossroads when honor killings come to America.

The United States has avoided this bloodstained trend until recently. Some consider Kanwal's death the first documented honor killing here. Others point to the murder of sisters Amina and Sarah Said in Irving, Texas, on New Years' 2007. (Their MySpace page remains up. Featuring assimilated teen culture and American music, it is haunting.) Their father remains on the run from police.

In upstate Monroe County just a few days ago, a girl was stabbed by her brother for wearing immodest western clothing and wanting to move to New York City. According to court documents, Waheed Allah Mohammad explained the stabbing by saying his sister was a "bad Muslim girl."

"Honor killing is a misnomer," author and exile Ayaan Hirsi Ali told me. "The killing occurs because these girls have allegedly brought shame on their family. The paradox is that these are individuals who have emancipated themselves.
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7-24-2008 8:09 AM
tabsey
Honour killings have been happening all over the world forever. Where did the term shotgun wedding come from?
How many lovers have been slain while escaping or in a duel? How many wives are killed in the world by jealous/ demented husbands?
How many suicides involve taking the kids too, to get even with the partner?
Multiculturalism hit America when the various European groups settled there. How many Europeans were killed for interfering with the Indian women? And visa versa?
7-24-2008 1:00 PM
reimers
The U.S. should nip this in the bud before we run into some of the same problems that Western Europe has now.
7-24-2008 4:05 PM
dulios
Agreed, tabsey. I posted a clip the other day about violence against women in the United States. Every day, four women are killed by domestic partners. That's 1400 women a year. Where is the outrage outside of women's organizations? Islam is not the culprit, anymore than Christianity or communism or fascism. It's male dominance.
7-24-2008 5:39 PM
sillysam
Dulios, once again you seem to think that you and your groups are the only ones that care about women. Here we are posting clips about how honor killings must be stopped. I would think that qualifies as showing outrage and caring. There are plenty of men and men's groups fighting for women. I am one of them.

Male dominance in Islam is the culprit. Christian doctrine does not preach violence against women so don't lump us in with Islam. And don't forget there are a lot of men who fought for women's rights in Afghanistan. I think you know how women were being treated under the Islamic rule there, not to mention Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. In America, men understand that we are the protec...
7-24-2008 5:41 PM
sillysam
I think both of you need to read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book.
7-24-2008 8:48 PM
cjartists
Christian doctrine does not preach violence against women so don't lump us in with Islam.
If you limit this statement to Christian doctrine of the past 50 years or so, it may be accurate. Only recently have Christian states and institutions even begun to give up imposing a lesser and degrading role on women. Arranged marriages have never been limited to Islam.

I wish more Christians would read their bibles carefully before spouting off nonsense like this. The damned thing is replete with justifications for violence against women, slavery, terrorism, and any other ill you might want to label as a result of Islam.
7-25-2008 5:50 PM
dulios
In America, men understand that we are the protectors of women.
Bingo. There it is. Male dominance. Well done.

Women are no better "protected" than in those nations where a woman may not leave her house without a male relative, and even then only covered head to toe. Real damn protected.

Women are not the "weaker sex". Women don't need "protection" from anyone, unless it's protection from the state, or the church, or men like you who would deny us reproductive freedom.

And I suggest you read Susan Faludi's book.
7-25-2008 11:04 PM
laceym
Christian doctrine does not preach violence against women
http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/CDDHome.html
7-26-2008 12:29 AM
merrie
Countries that are ruled by Islamic "law" are complicit in
this barbaric practice. Their rulers don't have any laws against murder within the family. I don't know of any exceptions.
7-26-2008 12:39 AM
dulios
Actually, merrie, honor killings are technically illegal in almost all of those countries. That the crimes are tolerated is the issue.

7-26-2008 1:27 AM
merrie
Actually, merrie, honor killings are technically illegal in almost all of those countries. That the crimes are tolerated is the issue.
That means that those rulers turn a "blind eye" to the
crimes, which is unacceptable in civilized cultures.
7-26-2008 4:34 AM
merrie
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