debbyski says: How and why do we choose our particular belief systems? I'd like to hear from other clippers as to why they choose to believe as they do without attacking anyone else for their beliefs. Atheists, agnostics, Fundamentalist Christians, Social Gospel Christians--Eastern or Western beliefs, etc. Just remember it is a free forum to state your belief system and why you think you chose it and not attack another--or comments will be removed. I think it could be interesting--please join in The biggest factor in our belief system is our family. Whether we carry on the beliefs of our family or not, it affects our concept on how we look at the world. The culture that the family lives imposes its' belief system. Only through the desire and will to examine everything you think you know can change your beliefs. I try to avoid beliefs and create a framework from experience. Beliefs are ok as long as they remain beliefs subject to examination. Some of my belief/value system--responsibility to work to make this world a better place, by healing, comforting, and educating. Recognizing concern for the powerless--including fighting for decent wages, the rights of workers to organize, child labor laws, women's rights and civil rights. Promoting justice for the voiceless and the powerless. Holding private and public enterprises responsible for the social costs of doing business, such as employment and environmental pollution. Why do I choose that to be my belief system? Because it applies the most meaning to my life by assuming my own responsibilities to society. But primarily because I believe it is what God demands of us. This requires some thought. Be back later. I was born into a Catholic family and spent twelve years in Catholic schools, but I stopped believing in the system by the time I was in fourth grade or thereabouts. For a while, I probably would have been considered an atheist; definitely not a churchgoer and no really definable beliefs. There were some things that bothered me about that. THe two most significant were the fact that I did, and still do, have a strong sense of the spiritual, and Catholicism left me with a liking for ritual. Eventually, in my early thirties, I got involved with the NewPagan community and found that it was both compatible with the way I felt and agreeable to my sensibilities. The community was good to me, ... I'm an agnostic. As a child, I was a *Christian* and used to sneak out to go to the nearby church and lurk outside listening to what was being said inside. I didn't dare go in! Too much pomp and circumstance. At the age of 6, I wanted a children's Bible for my birthday, much to the horror and dismay of my family, but they gave it to me. Through the years though, I came to realize the vast limitations of organized religion(s), but still I can't seem to shake the sense, that there may be more between Heaven and Earth than we currently know, so I am keeping an open mind. Today, cosmology and quantum physics seems to provide me with the most satisfying answers to the questions I have and to the... Same as KK Wow! Debby, what a clip! I guess I will have to tell my view on life. I was raised Roman Catholic but had doubts about the rituals and law keeping. I guess I went somewhat Godless for awhile and started searching for a new "church". My thoughts were that there had to be something more to life than eat, drink, be merry then die. When I looked at the world, I saw design and wondered how it got there. Being skeptical of evolution, I continued searching for the creator. Almost miraculously, I was directed to the Bible which, at the time, I thought was a book of myths. I found my answers there and the more I tried to dispel it's teachings, the more it proved itself until one day, I believe... My belief is what I was taught, and I have never questioned it, never had any reason to.. There have been times in my life where there is no question about weather or not God has a presence. As I said in an earlier post, I would rather believe in God now, than to not believe, and find out later, that I was wrong. I think there comes a time in everyone's life when we call on God to help us. A loving and merciful God he is. I choose my belief system because Wicca, while having dogma and a structure that defines it as a whole, leaves a very flexible internal structure that can can suit highly individual personalities. I like how it puts nature into a spiritual context, with the masculine and feminine having equal footing. Interesting choice of words: "choose to believe." I'm not so sure that believing is a choice, any more than feeling is. A belief, or a feeling, simply is. Why we believe it, on the other hand, is something else. Our upbringing, our family's beliefs, the information and experiences we've been exposed to—these all play a part in how our belief system is formed. I do not choose to believe in God, I simply do, and as far back as I can remember, I always have. What I have learned and experienced over my lifetime has only reinforced that belief. I may question things along the way, but after examining the question from every possible way (which I think is important), I have always returned to the... Okay Debs ~~ been thinking about it for a while now. I was born and baptized Catholic but never really bought into the dogma. when I got older and learned of all the horrors perpetrated on the world in the name of Christianity I felt betrayed and rejected it all. I spent decades exploring various religions and, by taking a bit from each of them formed my eclectic belief system (which continues to evolve -- closed systems are useless). I am a Pagan with a strong belief in the connectivity of the universe. Reincarnation is a given; karma indisputable. Astrology my guide. I do not believe that Samhain is Halloween. Samhain is whatever November day the Sun reaches 15 degrees Scorpio. ... My family is Baptist on my father's side, Irish Catholic on my mother's side. I was brought up Baptist till 11 years old when we switched to Catholic. Why, I have no idea. I wasn't a very good Catholic,but I tried really hard. I just had too many questions and no matter how deep I dug, I couldn't find the answers I needed. Truthfully it never felt right for me. Neither did Baptist or the other Christian religions. I finally left about 5 yrs ago. Right now you might say my beliefs are eclectic, including some Wicca for the same reasons as WiccanTexan pointed out. Actually, it's proving to be quite an enjoyable journey .I only hope the destination will be as enjoyable. What a dazzlingly open and respectful dialog! Everybody's talked about what they believe rather than what's wrong with a fellow clipper's outlook. Surely this kind of thoughtful self-disclosure is part of what Clipmarks was made for! Thank you, every contributor - you renewed my hope! Agnostic, which I learned through experience. My grandmother who grew up in an Irish convent and was terribly abused there (locked in closets etc..) raised me to be Catholic.I studied politics,philosophy and religion in university and never found the answers to be irrefutable. I believe religions distract the poor and suffering while benefiting church and state.In the end I believe it is also a result of fear and ego to be unable to accept death and finality. I am therefore a sentient,reluctant atheist and I am sure that if there is a supreme creator who would even stop to contemplate my dilemma of faith,she would at least give me credit for having TRIED to believe during my brief life. Bin mulling this over ever since Debby posted this I was raised by a very stern Presbyterian family on a farm. These people were not my parents and I was there as a ward of the Children's Aid Society . You may or may not have known such people: dour, mostly unsmiling, work obsessed, and if a child had the temerity to smile, then surely they must be doing the devil's work. I know, I know, this is supposed to be about my beliefs, however none of our beliefs are formed in a vacuum. Every Sunday, rain shine, sleet or snowstorm I attended first Sunday School in the basement of the church, and then upstairs to attend church services, which to the best of my memory was mostly fire and brims... Okay, what do I believe: I'm an Agnostic. To clarify: I do not believe in any deities., but am rather as much turned off by rabid Atheists a I am by rabid proselytizers of any religion, organized or not. Why? because I think it a fools errand as well as a great waste of time trying to prove the unprovable. My creed if you will is "The Golden Rule" which I extend as much as possible to all sentient entities. Do I believe anything to be sacred? Yes: All life and everything that nurtures and sustains life on this planet. My favorite biblical story is "The Good Samaritan" as it speaks to me on many levels. He religion that intrigues me most is that of the Jains in India An old Jesuit priest once extended his hand and fingers, the thumb was Jewish, the index was Muslim, the middle was Christian, the ring was Hindu, the little finger was Buddhist; as individual appendages, they could do little, squeeze them all together in a fist, they are all powerful. Respect, open mind, the will to learn, be able to accept all that was, all that is, and all that will be. Being Catholic is sometimes very hard for me, at the same time rewarding, it took me forever to understand the Trinity and transfiguration, the best thing is that I can go to Mass any where in the world, know exactly what is going on despite the language barrier. I am still like the agnostic, dyslexic, ins... Pardon the levity, but I find it appropriate that Christianity was the middle finger. Of course, now someone will come on and berate me for not bashing the other religions as well, but most of my personal contact with the disagreeable side of religion has been from that particular digit. I'd like to avoid comments that are reactive about what someone else said. Thanks. |
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