Obama never said he would "side with Muslims."

America did not introduce slavery nor racism to the world. The black slave trade started in this continent with the delivery of slaves to Jamestown.

The Spanish and English were big time slave traders.

The real (and better) story is the USA going through wars and civil rights struggles and generations after generations in overcoming slavery.

Let us know, BTW, when the first European county elects a black person for president.

Sorry about our nation doing so much damage but o most European nations go along with this, have provided active support for this, and in some cases been complicit in this (like M6). --- not most of the European people...

Obama never said he would "side with Muslims."

America did not introduce slavery nor racism to the world. The black slave trade started in this continent with the delivery of slaves to Jamestown.

The Spanish and English were big time slave traders.

The real (and better) story is the USA going through wars and civil rights struggles and generations after generations in overcoming slavery.

Let us know, BTW, when the first European county elects a black person for president.

Sorry about our nation doing so much damage but o most European nations go along with this, have provided active support for this, and in some cases been complicit in this (like M6). --- not most of the European people, of course, but their governments.

---we have the same problem here.

rvnurse, here is what it actually says on page 261 of Barack Obama's book, "The Audacity of Hope":

In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questionings and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direct...

rvnurse, here is what it actually says on page 261 of Barack Obama's book, "The Audacity of Hope":

In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questionings and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

Nowhere does the word "Muslim" appear. It is obvious to anyone with a mere moiety of their marbles that what he is talking about is standing by Americans of Middle Eastern descent defending their standing as citizens because of the acts of people from th lands of their ancestry. He justifiably compares it to the internment of Japanese-Americans, and I can speak to things that my own father said about his negative attitudes towards Germans during that same war.

rvnurse, if you haven't read the book for yourself, don't presume to quote it; if you don't care to read it, at least find a reputable third-party source to quote from. We all have browsers that take us to the same search engines; what one can find, all can find. The "stand with the Muslims" canard is a right-wing takling point that has no more validity than asserting that you are a member of a Taoist sex-magic cult.

citizenbfk - Thank you for your views. I am so tired of people placing blame for every common flaw on America. As if their own country is immune to human nature. People also forget that we have little to no control of our government. We are only given the illusion that we do. If there is some magical place where the laws of human nature do not exist, the people all get along unconditionally, and the people have control of their government, please point me in that direction. As far as I know, it does not exist.

brightlight4 - To speak against an entire country for what a few were shown to believe just proves to me that ignorance is prevalent everywhere. You're no better than they are. Do yo...

citizenbfk - Thank you for your views. I am so tired of people placing blame for every common flaw on America. As if their own country is immune to human nature. People also forget that we have little to no control of our government. We are only given the illusion that we do. If there is some magical place where the laws of human nature do not exist, the people all get along unconditionally, and the people have control of their government, please point me in that direction. As far as I know, it does not exist.

brightlight4 - To speak against an entire country for what a few were shown to believe just proves to me that ignorance is prevalent everywhere. You're no better than they are. Do you honestly think that this was put in the news because it is a common belief in this country? It's because the comments are so outrageous.
Sadly, there is racism in our country. Perhaps it's because our country is so diverse. I live in a place with many "black" people and I can honestly say that racism is not one-sided. Black people act differently here than I have heard/viewed them to act in Europe. Here, many black people speak, dress, and act differently. They also tend to stick together. They do, in fact, commit more crimes. Even against their own people. Some of them are still angry and were raised with the preconception that white people control America and dislike blacks. The truth is that black people have just as much opportunity as whites to get into college and progress. They also have more access to scholarships, financial aid, housing assistance, and assisted medical care than white people. America wants more black people to progress. America wants everyone to get along and succeed. There would be less crime, less poverty, and better economy for our country.

thisname - Every country is guilty of slavery. It has been happening since the first man realized that he could force someone else to do his work. We are still being persecuted for it, because it made such a bi

g impact on our recent history. The Africans enslaved their own people and traded them for goods. They don't teach you that in school here. Probably because it would anger blacks to have that thrown in their faces, and because we could accept them into society more quickly if only have the unity, pride, and strength of the African people was taught to us.

I don't think the Muslim religion is what is hated by these people, but those of the Muslim faith that would murder any non-Muslim. Those are the ones we are at war with, but not everyone realizes that not all Muslim people in Iraq would behave this way. If all Muslims were the kind who would murder us, I would fear having a Muslim preside...

g impact on our recent history. The Africans enslaved their own people and traded them for goods. They don't teach you that in school here. Probably because it would anger blacks to have that thrown in their faces, and because we could accept them into society more quickly if only have the unity, pride, and strength of the African people was taught to us.

I don't think the Muslim religion is what is hated by these people, but those of the Muslim faith that would murder any non-Muslim. Those are the ones we are at war with, but not everyone realizes that not all Muslim people in Iraq would behave this way. If all Muslims were the kind who would murder us, I would fear having a Muslim president too. Not that i'm saying he is, in fact, a practicing Muslim. I only intended to pint out reason why some might fear it.

I wish for peace that will never exist between all our people and I love you all!

Eva, I am sorry but I think you are mistaken to call me ignorant about this particular subject. I am perfectly aware that it is only part of American Society but I know a lot more about the ignorance of US citizens than you would prefer to think. When the American's think that Spain is in S. America or have no idea where it is at all!!! As for the minority factor, if the Average US citizen had the faintest idea of what was going on in the world Bush would have been impeached years ago when war on Iraq was declared as that was an illegal war!!! But if they prefer to watch Homer Simpson or whatever and take no notice of what is going on in the world, what can you expect!!! Don't please tak...

Eva, I am sorry but I think you are mistaken to call me ignorant about this particular subject. I am perfectly aware that it is only part of American Society but I know a lot more about the ignorance of US citizens than you would prefer to think. When the American's think that Spain is in S. America or have no idea where it is at all!!! As for the minority factor, if the Average US citizen had the faintest idea of what was going on in the world Bush would have been impeached years ago when war on Iraq was declared as that was an illegal war!!! But if they prefer to watch Homer Simpson or whatever and take no notice of what is going on in the world, what can you expect!!! Don't please take my earlier comments as generalisations about the whole of the US but the mere fact that such comments are made go to prove that a lot of Americans are afraid of the blacks and of having a black leader and are downright ignorant!!!

Isn't that just semantics? Borders shift and empires fall, wars are won and lost, laws are changed etc. If not foreign slaves, then among the indigenous peoples. Here it says:

[/i]Slavery in Canada was practiced for millennia by aboriginal nations, who routinely captured slaves from neighbouring tribes. However, chattel slavery (that form of hereditary slavery in which humans are regarded as the private property of an individual) started with the European settlement of Canada, appearing soon after the colonies were founded in the early 1600s.[/i]

My point is merely, I think very few can say have been totally guilt-free in slavery of some kind or from profiting from it, at some point...

Isn't that just semantics? Borders shift and empires fall, wars are won and lost, laws are changed etc. If not foreign slaves, then among the indigenous peoples. Here it says:

[/i]Slavery in Canada was practiced for millennia by aboriginal nations, who routinely captured slaves from neighbouring tribes. However, chattel slavery (that form of hereditary slavery in which humans are regarded as the private property of an individual) started with the European settlement of Canada, appearing soon after the colonies were founded in the early 1600s.[/i]

My point is merely, I think very few can say have been totally guilt-free in slavery of some kind or from profiting from it, at some point in time. Sweat shops are a form of slavery. Monsanto's seed policies in poor countries enslave the farmers. Being a housewife is slavery...hahaha! Okay.. just kidding on that last one, but you know what I mean.

In the USA, those parts of the nation that did not directly own slaves were often still dependent upon them through commerce. Indeed, cotton was shipped around the world, as was rum. Traders of New England - which we don't think of as slave territory - may have grown the most wealth from the shipping trade - slaves to the Carribbean islands, rum to America, cotton to England, manufactured goods to Africa.

While slavery was never legal in Iowa, where I live - and Iowans can get a little snooty about it - midwesterners were often passionately anti-black, and made it clear black people were not welcome here. Quakers and a few other religious groups were the rare exceptions, helping former sl...

In the USA, those parts of the nation that did not directly own slaves were often still dependent upon them through commerce. Indeed, cotton was shipped around the world, as was rum. Traders of New England - which we don't think of as slave territory - may have grown the most wealth from the shipping trade - slaves to the Carribbean islands, rum to America, cotton to England, manufactured goods to Africa.

While slavery was never legal in Iowa, where I live - and Iowans can get a little snooty about it - midwesterners were often passionately anti-black, and made it clear black people were not welcome here. Quakers and a few other religious groups were the rare exceptions, helping former slaves escape -
to Canada!

So congratulations Canada for taking a more moral view than the USA did.

darkeforce - It isn't fair to say that slavery happened in all countries, I retract that statement, but evidence of slavery has been found in most countries before written records were kept. To say that only those few countries mentioned have had slaves is even more false than to say all countries have.

brightlight5 - Once again you have stated that a "lot of Americans are afraid of blacks", because of what those few idiots said. Once again, I will tell you that your view is ignorant. What have you based your opinion on? Don't presume to come on here and claim that you know a lot about our citizens simply because of some comments that you've heard from others, or have heard from shows ma...

darkeforce - It isn't fair to say that slavery happened in all countries, I retract that statement, but evidence of slavery has been found in most countries before written records were kept. To say that only those few countries mentioned have had slaves is even more false than to say all countries have.

brightlight5 - Once again you have stated that a "lot of Americans are afraid of blacks", because of what those few idiots said. Once again, I will tell you that your view is ignorant. What have you based your opinion on? Don't presume to come on here and claim that you know a lot about our citizens simply because of some comments that you've heard from others, or have heard from shows making fun of us on TV. Until you have lived here for a number of years and gotten to know people, any idea that you have about the American people is ignorant by the definition <lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified>. If all you have is hearsay, then you are lacking knowledge. Until you have experienced life in America and known it's people, you cannot comprehend what they think or feel. It was a very simple statement and wasn't insulting your intelligence. I only meant to state that your opinion was unfounded, and I stand by that.
The House of Representatives has to impeach the President! Have you any clue the amount of time, money, evidence and connections it would take to impeach the President? Do you think we can just all sign a petition and send it into our Congressman and have him impeached?
Most of the Americans I have heard anything from are against this war, and have been for years. The majority of those that are for the war are basing their opinion on what they are told is happening, which may or may not be true.There have been many people that have spoken up about it. There have been plenty of letters and petitions. It is seriously costing us and everyone knows about that part of it. I don't know if it's for oil or if there is some deeper reason tha

t we aren't told, and neither do you. All we have to go on is speculation and whatever the government decides to tell us. Which is, undoubtedly, partial truths and possibly lies. Or articles written by people that want their name remembered, money, or their opinions put across. Anyone who knows the real truth would likely be imprisoned before being allowed to disclose it publicly.
The truth is that many Americans feel powerless and choose not to worry about what they can't control. It's not because we don't care. You are a fool if you think that it doesn't affect us. Your comments are prejudiced, plain and simple.

Personally, I'd love to see a black President. The black citizens need more ...

t we aren't told, and neither do you. All we have to go on is speculation and whatever the government decides to tell us. Which is, undoubtedly, partial truths and possibly lies. Or articles written by people that want their name remembered, money, or their opinions put across. Anyone who knows the real truth would likely be imprisoned before being allowed to disclose it publicly.
The truth is that many Americans feel powerless and choose not to worry about what they can't control. It's not because we don't care. You are a fool if you think that it doesn't affect us. Your comments are prejudiced, plain and simple.

Personally, I'd love to see a black President. The black citizens need more leaders to inspire them. There still seem to be some black youths that don't feel they can do better, but they really can. I encourage it, and so do many other Americans. Not because we look down on them, but because we are confident that they are just as capable and deserving as we are. I wouldn't want to insult the unity of black people by calling them my brethren, but I honestly feel that we are all kin and it hurts to see any people of any race living below the quality of life that they can achieve. I won't assume that it isn't more difficult, for whatever reasons, because I don't know what it's like to be black. I wish I lived in a time where the color of one's skin need not even be mentioned. But then, we'd all be persecuting each other for religion or some other such nonsense. Man always finds something to fight over.

@darkeforce, I'm really impressed to hear that slavery was prohibited in Canada from the day of it's very beginning; that is certainly something to be very proud of.

My statement about 'slavery has existed in every country," was indeed a rather broad generalization almost guaranteed to be proved wrong somewhere, like most broad generalizations.

In context my main point was about not liking to see the U.S.A. get all the bad rap for slavery when slavery was introduced and encouraged and a business of all the European powers who came over to this continent: The Dutch, The Spanish, The English, The French (being the main ones).

But eventually these nations stopped slavery and their slave trad...

@darkeforce, I'm really impressed to hear that slavery was prohibited in Canada from the day of it's very beginning; that is certainly something to be very proud of.

My statement about 'slavery has existed in every country," was indeed a rather broad generalization almost guaranteed to be proved wrong somewhere, like most broad generalizations.

In context my main point was about not liking to see the U.S.A. get all the bad rap for slavery when slavery was introduced and encouraged and a business of all the European powers who came over to this continent: The Dutch, The Spanish, The English, The French (being the main ones).

But eventually these nations stopped slavery and their slave trade; eventually slavery was ended in the USA in 1863; life moves on and we are much, much better without one race thinking it can whip or work another to death.

I certainly didn't mean for my broad general statement to insult your nation but to make the valid point that slavery wasn't a USA original idea and for hundreds of years and at the cost of hundreds of thousands dead we continue to work ourselves out of it; that's the good thing.

In truth, though, slavery has been a pretty darn common and universal fact. Before the arrival of the Europeans to the Americas some of the native tribes practiced slavery....captives in war were made slaves; this is also very commonly noted in other countries and at other times: In Greece, In Rome, in the Western Middle Ages, in China, Japan, India, etc. -- that was my point.

Although I probably most often sound like a critic of my country it's really the government I am most critical of. I can't help it if John McCain doesn't know where Spain is. I can't turn red-necks into right necks or whatever.

And I've heard and believe there is a lot less racism in some countries in Europe and elsewhere than here, and more tolerance for religions and lifestyles as well.

Probably until my last breath, though, I would like to say: 'we're progressing'

Eva08 please stop trying to educate the educated and assume that we know nothing about the US purely and simply because you have decided that it is so. Oh and go read about the WHITE US citizen who hung an efigy of OBAMA with a rope around the neck and which is being openly supported on Internet and then tell me that there are "few racist" Americans!!!

As for the Americans not being able to do anything against the GOP that you will never convince me of, you had a member of Congress if I am not mistaken who wanted Impeachment but with no support!! When people MOVE then Congress moves and the Senate too and none of that has happened, except perhaps on a small scale. Try looking back at the...

Eva08 please stop trying to educate the educated and assume that we know nothing about the US purely and simply because you have decided that it is so. Oh and go read about the WHITE US citizen who hung an efigy of OBAMA with a rope around the neck and which is being openly supported on Internet and then tell me that there are "few racist" Americans!!!

As for the Americans not being able to do anything against the GOP that you will never convince me of, you had a member of Congress if I am not mistaken who wanted Impeachment but with no support!! When people MOVE then Congress moves and the Senate too and none of that has happened, except perhaps on a small scale. Try looking back at the Anti Vietnam protests!! THAT was a protest and it served a purpose. People are NEVER powerless when they are THE PEOPLE and use their pressure against wrong decisions or wars. Looking the other way is not a way of resolving the problem and you are VERY VERY wrong, I have a lot of American friends so I know that some care and are not ignorant of what is happening or don't care, it is the other larger % of sheeple I am disgusted with and there is one hell of a lot of them judging from the people's reaction to the present political and economic situation. Bush can break laws, make laws illegally etc. and no one lifts a damn finger!!!!

brighlight4 - Don't condescend to me that I "assume you know nothing about the U.S. purely and simply because I decided it to be so". I never said that you know nothing about the U.S. and it's politics. I only said that you have no right to claim to understand the majority of it's PEOPLE, without having lived here. I would never claim to know a country's people that I have not befriended, loved, and grown beside, because it can't be so. Walk a mile in another man's shoes, and so on. It is unreasonable and insulting to accuse the majority of a country's population based on what a few thousand believe. That's all I was saying on that point. In your first response, you asked that I not perceive...

brighlight4 - Don't condescend to me that I "assume you know nothing about the U.S. purely and simply because I decided it to be so". I never said that you know nothing about the U.S. and it's politics. I only said that you have no right to claim to understand the majority of it's PEOPLE, without having lived here. I would never claim to know a country's people that I have not befriended, loved, and grown beside, because it can't be so. Walk a mile in another man's shoes, and so on. It is unreasonable and insulting to accuse the majority of a country's population based on what a few thousand believe. That's all I was saying on that point. In your first response, you asked that I not perceive that this was a generalized view of the U.S. Yet, in every comment after, you seem to have contradicted that statement.
Also, you fail to realize that I agreed with you on most of what you said. I have already stated that there is still racism in America. I did not try to say that only a few Americans are racist, but that few would believe as the people in this article do. Read my posts again. These are very few people when compared to the rest of the population. For most of this election, Obama has been doing very well, from what I've read. Despite the fact that he is regurgitating the same claims that nearly every Presidential canditate runs in their campaign. Which is exactly what we want to hear.
I have also stated that the people are, indeed, kept ignorant of what is really going on in politics.
I did not try to "educate" you on political views. I stated that it takes the House of Representatives to impeach the President, because that is a key reason why I find it hard to believe that the citizens can do anything. Then I expressed other reasons why I feel that it is out of our control. Lastly, I explained to you that many Americans feel they are powerless. You wanted to know why Americans don't fight this war. I gave you one reason. I have no idea what you're arguing about

brightlight, I am not sure - but I was a college freshman in 1970 and I remember the fire well.
There is good news, though - and quite a bit of it. Young people all over America are excited about change, and Obama is the first politician they've ever heard who speaks their post-modern language. They are not party-oriented, but they are deeply moved by a candidate who seems genuine to them. And they see no reason to be at war.
Meanwhile, the old-style pol like McCain finds his support coming from an aging and shrinking part of the electorate. The religious right has come apart at the seams, so the Republican alliance between religious and economic conservatives - and military neocons - has ...

brightlight, I am not sure - but I was a college freshman in 1970 and I remember the fire well.
There is good news, though - and quite a bit of it. Young people all over America are excited about change, and Obama is the first politician they've ever heard who speaks their post-modern language. They are not party-oriented, but they are deeply moved by a candidate who seems genuine to them. And they see no reason to be at war.
Meanwhile, the old-style pol like McCain finds his support coming from an aging and shrinking part of the electorate. The religious right has come apart at the seams, so the Republican alliance between religious and economic conservatives - and military neocons - has splintered and is demoralized.
So yes, there was fire in the 70s, but remember, Nixon was re-elected in 72 and would have continued had it not been for Watergate.
There is fire now, too, but it has a dramatically different feel. But I sense the right-wing agenda no longer has a long-term viable electorate, and the Republican party as we've known it since Nixon is no more. The remnants struggle now not to make their case, but simply to make Obama look bad, for they have no unifying issue of their own. Even if McCain somehow pulled this one out, it would still be the end for the party as it's been.
Hillary, too, by the way, lost for the same reason, IMO: she spoke the language and campaigned with the format of an aging generation that simply didn't have traction with the way America is headed.

@ Masbury.... I am delighted to hear that there is still fight in the younger generation but I see so many young people complaining that no one is reacting to Bush and his illegal actions and sneaky laws that are passed. That is what I don't understand, this sensation of passivity. Perhaps that is due to the lack of information due to the media these days? People need more information about what is going on around them.

I wondered what it was that turned people off Hillary Clinton. I have a friend in the UK who was very pro Hillary which I found odd because the friend was a man. While I was pro Obama, but I have gone off the Dems lately too.

One thing I am very much concerned about is...

@ Masbury.... I am delighted to hear that there is still fight in the younger generation but I see so many young people complaining that no one is reacting to Bush and his illegal actions and sneaky laws that are passed. That is what I don't understand, this sensation of passivity. Perhaps that is due to the lack of information due to the media these days? People need more information about what is going on around them.

I wondered what it was that turned people off Hillary Clinton. I have a friend in the UK who was very pro Hillary which I found odd because the friend was a man. While I was pro Obama, but I have gone off the Dems lately too.

One thing I am very much concerned about is the "concentration camps" that have been created in the US and wonder when and why they intend to fill them and I am also worried about them having brought military into the US as if they were expecting some sort of trouble on the streets..

I just get the feeling that something will probably happen about the time of the elections and....... Goodbye to the Obama option.

Maybe I am being hyper but I can't trust the GOP at all, neither regarding the US nor the rest of the world.

One thing I am very much concerned about is the "concentration camps"
that have been created in the US and wonder when and why they intend to
fill them and I am also worried about them having brought military into
the US as if they were expecting some sort of trouble on the streets..

Not to worry brightlight4 - pay no attention to the camps or the guards...they are here strictly for your own protection.

The "camps" are to be filled with those that are in dire need of debriefing from all the brainwashing they've received since birth.
Do not worry, your stay will be a rather short one, in 6 to 12 short months and you will be released back into normal society a completely changed...

One thing I am very much concerned about is the "concentration camps"
that have been created in the US and wonder when and why they intend to
fill them and I am also worried about them having brought military into
the US as if they were expecting some sort of trouble on the streets..

Not to worry brightlight4 - pay no attention to the camps or the guards...they are here strictly for your own protection.

The "camps" are to be filled with those that are in dire need of debriefing from all the brainwashing they've received since birth.
Do not worry, your stay will be a rather short one, in 6 to 12 short months and you will be released back into normal society a completely changed person. After release you will have many things to look forward too. You will actually be able to think for yourself, you will be able to make a decision without consulting a poll, or even forming a committee - think of that. Yes you will be able to find the answer to that ever elusive question - is there voter fraud.

You will in fact become a Republican, but you will learn they are not the boogie-men that's been pounded into your head all your life. You will for the first time in your adult life be able to distinguish between good and evil, right and wrong, you'll be proud not only of yourself but your country as well.

Camps are now being erected near large concentrations of liberals who congregate together for warmth, protection and for the gathering of foodstuffs which normally are stolen from Republicans.

@d1211
That remark about it being for peoples own protection does not sound at all reassuring, sounds like the Patriot Act and other such things.

Nothing has been pounded into my head all my life, I came to my own conclusions about politics by watching my mother voting Tory against her own interests year after year, because she had come from an upper class family. She married below her social status and her family turned their back on her, so she got no support from them and was left a widow with no work and five children to bring up alone, but YES SIRRRRR, she continued voting Tory, even at the risk of losing our home and income when Mad Maggie did away with social services that had ...

@d1211
That remark about it being for peoples own protection does not sound at all reassuring, sounds like the Patriot Act and other such things.

Nothing has been pounded into my head all my life, I came to my own conclusions about politics by watching my mother voting Tory against her own interests year after year, because she had come from an upper class family. She married below her social status and her family turned their back on her, so she got no support from them and was left a widow with no work and five children to bring up alone, but YES SIRRRRR, she continued voting Tory, even at the risk of losing our home and income when Mad Maggie did away with social services that had given me my education and a roof over our heads when my parents could only afford a reasonable rent and not buy a house. THESE are the things I would like for all those who cannot earn a living for themselves for whatever reason, until they are able to stand on their own two feet again. So I guess I am a Socialist (a dreaded name in the US I believe, same as Commie) but I prefer Socialism because it means generosity rather than wealth and greed and it was what brought the UK out of the dark ages in the times of Charles Dickens and gave Oliver Twists homes, food and education just like me, all due to the system devised by the Methodist Church, which is something else I like about that particular religion even though I would much prefer to be Buddhist.

THANK GOD I don't live in the US and at the moment there are no such camps near where I live in Spain uufffff, I really do feel sorry for those who wind up in such camps, specially since torture is coming into fashion I take it you are Republican then huh D1211? Rather live with my conscience than yours then kiddo

brightlight4 - I could've said the same exact thing about you. I was only trying to explain to you what I meant. We obviously just have a misunderstanding.
Try not to assume that just because you perceive a person one way, that is how they are. If I seem to have been patronizing, it is only because I am trying to speak very clearly so that what I say isn't misconstrued. I apologize if you are taking it the wrong way.
And stop blaming me for things that you are guilty of. Perhaps you should look back at how many insults and false claims that you have stated. Even to the very end.
I didn't argue with a single thing you said except that the majority of America would feel as these extreme racist...

brightlight4 - I could've said the same exact thing about you. I was only trying to explain to you what I meant. We obviously just have a misunderstanding.
Try not to assume that just because you perceive a person one way, that is how they are. If I seem to have been patronizing, it is only because I am trying to speak very clearly so that what I say isn't misconstrued. I apologize if you are taking it the wrong way.
And stop blaming me for things that you are guilty of. Perhaps you should look back at how many insults and false claims that you have stated. Even to the very end.
I didn't argue with a single thing you said except that the majority of America would feel as these extreme racists do, which is false. Your defense was that you know it's true because you have "many American friends". If I were to judge the value of your opinion based solely on this, I would have good reason not to agree with it.
I am not just being defensive of my country. I already stated that there was racism, people aren't doing anything, that we were ignorant of what was going on in our government, and so forth. My husband and I discussed leaving this country years ago. We even researched and found out the proper procedures we would need to take, and calculated the amount of money we would need. We decided that it was too risky to move to a new country with our child, when we didn't know anyone there, or have a job already set up. We're far from rich people, and we have responsibility for our family. Every accusation you have spoken about my character is incorrect. Therefore, we are just misunderstanding each other. I'm not here to argue with you. Just try and have enough respect for a fellow man by not assuming the worst in them. Or at least keep it to yourself, if you aren't prepared for them to defend themselves.
Feel free to get the last word in, so that you can impress people you don't know on the internet. I won't be coming back to read it. (It's insulting to have people assu

Re: posts above, it does seems that a few people got their wires crossed and a few missed some sarcasm and a few missed some truth so astounding that it sounded like sarcasm.

I'll jump back into this fray by defending the good hearts of many Americans. A basic problem which I think might be common in other countries is that: Our government does what it darn well pleases and doesn't give a....doesn't give a darn about what the people think or feel.

Like, I understand there was a peace rally in London, UK that folks wanted to stay out of Iraq.

What happen? - The Brits got into the war. (In fact, MI6 was active and complicit in deliberating spreading one of the false facts about Saddam havi...

Re: posts above, it does seems that a few people got their wires crossed and a few missed some sarcasm and a few missed some truth so astounding that it sounded like sarcasm.

I'll jump back into this fray by defending the good hearts of many Americans. A basic problem which I think might be common in other countries is that: Our government does what it darn well pleases and doesn't give a....doesn't give a darn about what the people think or feel.

Like, I understand there was a peace rally in London, UK that folks wanted to stay out of Iraq.

What happen? - The Brits got into the war. (In fact, MI6 was active and complicit in deliberating spreading one of the false facts about Saddam having weapons of mass destruction --- MI6 helping to spread the idea they knew was false, about the false claim that Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger.

So, a million Brits in the street did nothing to change their governments mind.

So, too here. We are also hindered in making change because we just can't get rid of a government we don't like or a president we don't like as easily as it's done in a parliamentary system.

Our leaders and our politicians also lie to us a lot, which misdirects us. The recent big example is that they deliberately lied about the reasons for the war in Iraq....and they promote these lies, spread these lies, repeat these lies and with the use of these lies they mislead our nation into a false war for false reasons.

Another problem is that some of our better leaders and better voices get murdered. All social and political efforts against the war in Vietnam and onward progress in civil rights (and against warmongering in general) was shot down in the streets with the murder of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King within months of each other, in 1968.

So, these types of murders and assassinations have also hindered progress.

Those recent Spanish elections and decisions were indeed most impressive and gave us some hope that such changes can be made here (in the USA) as well.

By all metrics of political sucess Obama is on his way to victory.

1. He has a growing and growing lead in all polls.
2. He's raised and spends a staggering amount of money.
3. He draws the largest and larger and larger crowds
4. He has more workers and more volunteers and it fighting for the most 'battleground states.'

It looks like a landslide; like a darn earthqaking landslide.

75% of Americans are now polled angry and disgusted with America's direction.

Bush has only 22% support, the lowest ever recorded for a president.

Republican ...

Those recent Spanish elections and decisions were indeed most impressive and gave us some hope that such changes can be made here (in the USA) as well.

By all metrics of political sucess Obama is on his way to victory.

1. He has a growing and growing lead in all polls.
2. He's raised and spends a staggering amount of money.
3. He draws the largest and larger and larger crowds
4. He has more workers and more volunteers and it fighting for the most 'battleground states.'

It looks like a landslide; like a darn earthqaking landslide.

75% of Americans are now polled angry and disgusted with America's direction.

Bush has only 22% support, the lowest ever recorded for a president.

Republican smear campaigns and hyped-up non-issues are having no effect -- people remember the last eight years of the nightmare of the Bush Administration and nothing the Republicans now say can wipe that taste from their mouths.

This is now our chance which (unfortunately) we only have once every four years to clean house, thrown out these corrupt warmongers and criminals, and get some decent and good leadership.

If Obama supporters continue to speak out, advocate, vote, encourage others to vote, just for the next 14 days of this homestretch, it's a done deal.

It's a done deal, dudes! Vote Obama!