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11-20-2006 10:45 AM1891 views
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11-20-2006 10:48 AM
bignosemousie
wow.
11-20-2006 11:40 AM
ClaireRose
I'd sure like to know what was said during the "playful heckling." I can't imagine someone just flying off like that without being pushed. I'm sure not condoning his behavior, though. It WAS uncalled for and just horrible. This will change my feelings toward "Kramer" forever. How sad. Everyone is just stressed to the max anymore. I want to find someplace to hide for about the next six months to just de-stress.
11-20-2006 11:49 AM
egoldstein
what a disgrace.
11-20-2006 12:03 PM
ericw
He's done.
11-20-2006 12:20 PM
arifsali
Whoaaa....damn, Kramer?? What the hell. The celebrity idol crashes right here.
11-20-2006 12:21 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Black comedians and rappers engage in the same kind of stuff, not in emotional outbursts, but as part of their acts and no one is outraged.
11-20-2006 2:23 PM
arifsali
You have a good point there Godfrey. But does that justify the slurs by everyone else?
11-20-2006 2:36 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Of course not, but I am sensing the hypocrisy around this issue possibly reaching a point of critical mass which one would hope would bring about more honesty and less condescension.

The expectation has been that some shall be given a pass, while others deserve castigation.
11-20-2006 3:54 PM
arifsali
No, it's about rooting for the appropriate and ethical behavior.
11-20-2006 3:59 PM
eemorningwood
Well it got his name in the paper. Kids are asking who is Kramer? What is a sienfield.

What a putz!
11-20-2006 4:04 PM
Godfrey Daniel
e e morningwood

preceeds

e e cummings
11-20-2006 4:08 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Arif, in beginning your comment with "no", you seem to be wrongly inferring that I'm not "rooting for the appropriate and ethical behaviour", although "rooting" is not a word that I would use in this context.
11-20-2006 6:47 PM
lordsubd
Damn - and I used to like him. Oh well.
11-20-2006 6:53 PM
arifsali
I think Kramer was Kramer while he was within the screen of Seinfeld. He never clicked outside of it, and as we can see now, he probably never will.
11-21-2006 12:42 AM
jklugman
Kramer did a satellite linkup with David Letterman & Jerry Seinfeld and apologized.

Letterman asked Richards if he would have responded to the heckler in a similar vein if he had been of a different race.

"It may have happened," said Richards. "I'm a performer. I push the envelope. I work in a very uncontrolled manner on stage. I do a lot of free association -- it's spontaneous, I go into character. I don't know. In view of the situation and the act going the way it was going, I don't know. The rage did go all over the place it went to everybody in the room."

Richards seemed baffled by his own reaction on sta...
11-21-2006 12:54 AM
Godfrey Daniel
Be honest. Imagine white hecklers and a black comedian.
11-21-2006 10:40 AM
arifsali
He's perhaps not a full blown racist but he's holding on to some skeleton in his chest. I accept his apology but he needs to come clean with himself. It is only when he accepts his own negative shadows, he will be free of prejudice.
11-21-2006 3:57 PM
jklugman
Be honest. Imagine white hecklers and a black comedian.
I would imagine that a comedian implying that he wanted specific audience members to be lynched would be reviled regardless of his or her race.

As far as racial epithets go, obviously the offensiveness of words is very much a product of culture, history, and power. Given the history of whites and blacks in the United States, it does not surprise me that many people find it outrageous when a white person directs a racial epithet at a black person, but less so when a black person directs a racial epithet at another black person or at a white person. You like to call this hypocrisy; I think it shows sensitivity to pas...
11-21-2006 4:11 PM
Godfrey Daniel
I would imagine that a comedian implying that he wanted specific audience members to be lynched...

It's always disappointing when you engaging in this kind of deceptive misdepiction. Your points could be made without them.
11-21-2006 4:20 PM
jklugman
The person in question said: "Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with a f***ing fork up your ass." He is clearly referencing lynching, and it is reasonable to infer that Richards is saying he would like this to happen.
11-21-2006 4:34 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Of course, JK, quite reasonable.

How's the weather in that parallel universe of yours?
11-21-2006 4:47 PM
arifsali
I think it shows sensitivity to past injustices that were committed on a humongous scale.
You are absolutely correct, the baggage is very heavy and it may take lots and lots of years before anything changes. If Richard has problems understanding this mere fact then I think he should fess up and accept the reality, somthing Mel Gibson hasn't been able to do yet hence he keeps on stumbling.
11-21-2006 4:50 PM
Godfrey Daniel
You are absolutely correct, the baggage is very heavy and it may take lots and lots of years before anything changes

Especially with too many reminding and encouraging us to pick it up and carry it in perpetuity.
11-21-2006 4:57 PM
jklugman
Especially with too many reminding and encouraging us to pick it up and carry it in perpetuity.
Yes--it is too bad about whites who don't want to live close to blacks or who don't want to hire black workers, or banks who redline black residential areas. They should let the baggage go.
11-21-2006 5:33 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Focus shift
11-21-2006 6:57 PM
ehsohz
LMAO!
dunno why this is so funny but, it is....he totally flips his lid..it's priceless but then you realize that he's serious and then its sad instead of funny
11-21-2006 7:28 PM
Murphy71984
OMG! This supposedly isn't his first time either.
11-22-2006 7:40 PM
clipette
what a bastard. im so disgusted.
11-22-2006 8:10 PM
arifsali
I accept his apology, end of story.
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