Kore7 says: Today's Christian conservatives often note that Jefferson's famous line declaring that the first amendment had created “a wall separating church and state” was not in the Constitution but in a private letter. But in that letter, Jefferson was responding to one sent to him by a group of Baptists in Danbury, Conn. We usually read Jefferson's side of that exchange. It's worth re-reading what the Danbury Baptists had to say because it reminds us that for the 18th-century evangelicals, the separation of church and state was not only required by the practicalities of their minority status, but was also demanded by God. “Religions is at all times and places a matter between God and individuals,” the Baptists wrote, warning that government “dare not assume the prerogatives of Jehova and make Laws to govern the Kingdom of Christ.” Government had no business meddling in the affairs of the soul, where there is only one Ruler. Wonderful clip!! Thank you. Kore, Dr. Dobson was on Larry King last night re-inventing history to his own liking and beliefs regarding this matter. very interesting. There was no such agreement that government and religion should be kept far apart. This is a secular argument to suggest that secular beliefs are somehow superior to religious beliefs when it comes to government. There were two things that were in agreement. The government should keep out of the church, and the government should not set up an official government sanctioned religion. The complete removal of anything even remotely religious to anything or anyone related at all with the government is a very recent change. Things such as prayer in congress was taking place before we even became a nation, so I am quite sure the founding fathers would be completely taken off guard today that prayer is considered an establishment of religion. I can't really comment about the other heavenly religions, but i do know bout Islam. And since it gives it's followers a complete rules on everything from dealing with neighbors to politics. A complete a way of life, so in that sense the word religion cannot be applied here in the traditional sense. We exited the dark ages when we separated religion from state. If we reverse the separation, to the dark ages we will return. The Dark Ages was a faith-based initiative. "The complete removal of anything even remotely religious to anything or anyone related at all with the government is a very recent change." -- n2sooners As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, one of the earliest court cases I know of regarding a separation issue was the Edgerton Bible Case, which came before the Wisconsin Supreme Court in 1890. It had its origins in the fact that Catholics objected to the use of the King James bible in public schools. This became the first landmark case on separation issues, long before Engel v. Vitale [1962], Abington School District v. Schempp [1963]... |
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