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7-7-2009 5:42 PM
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debbyski says:
"Kids who are sent off to war are forced to grow up too fast. They soon learn what real toughness is, and it has nothing to do with lousy bureaucrats and armchair warriors sacrificing the lives of the young for political considerations and hollow, flag-waving, risk-free expressions of patriotic fervor.
McNamara, it turns out, had realized early on that Vietnam was a lost cause, but he kept that crucial information close to his chest, like a gambler trying to bluff his way through a bad hand, as America continued to send tens of thousands to their doom. How in God’s name did he ever look at himself in a mirror?

Lessons learned from Vietnam? None."
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7-7-2009 5:49 PM
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The problem with all of McNamara’s boo-hooing about his role in conducting the war in Vietnam and second thoughts even about the Allies’ strategic bombing in World War II was that he was apologizing for the wrong things.

It can certainly be argued that America’s decision to militarily intervene in Vietnam was a mistake because that country’s strategic importance did not merit the commitment of such massive forces. But the notion that the U.S. effort to defeat the Communist attempt to subvert and then conquer South Vietnam was immoral ignores not only the context of the conflict but the consequences of the eventual American defeat that was set up by McNamara’s squandering of years of public ...
7-7-2009 5:50 PM
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forced the North to accept an independent South Vietnam although they threw out that agreement as soon as they thought the time was right.
7-7-2009 5:51 PM
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The verdict of history on Robert McNamara must be that for all of his brilliance his record was one of uninterrupted failure once he left Detroit for Washington. It’s a shame that his death will prompt a rerun of McNamara’s own wrong-headed evaluations of his career.
7-7-2009 6:06 PM
disenchantedcitizen
Forward he cried from the rear
and the front rank died.
And the general sat and the lines on the map
moved from side to side. - Pink Floyd 'Us and Them'
7-7-2009 6:28 PM
abailart
"The obscenity of war is lost on most Americans, and that drains the death of Robert McNamara of any real significance." Quite. Those who can spell seem to prefer prefer the rigidly intellectual stance. As long as armchairs stay comfortable the obscenities will go on.
7-8-2009 9:42 AM
ratilfar
Vietnam was a misguided Imperial exercise under the rubric of anti-communist agenda. The Vietnamese fought off the Japanese and the French and were not about to accept the division of their country by a foreign power or the corrupt puppet regime in the South.

Vietnam then served to expose the Imperial underside of American foreign policy. To bad that those lessons where ignored and worse subsumed by the "Stab in the Back" Myth, thus the world ended with the mess that is Iraq today.
7-8-2009 9:44 AM
ratilfar
At least McNamara had the guts to admit that he was wrong and further more gave a much deserved second look to American history and exposed a lot of the hypocrasy and myth making there in.

McNamara proves that redemption, if only a fraction of it, is possible.
7-8-2009 11:12 AM
ratilfar
For an excellent discussion on McNamara death check out this article in Salon:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/07/07/mcnamara/

I don't agree with some of the points raised but still worth the read.
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