Blech. Pseudoscience.

Sorry celest, but don't give the guy too much scientific credit. There is a misunderstanding that this man has submitted over 150 scientific peer reviewed papers, but that was a typo and those 150 papers actually were written by Stuart Hameroff M.D..

Emoto claims to have submitted a single "peer reviewed" paper - but in fact it has never been reviewed. It is a photo essay comparable to a high school science project. His work is highly speculative. Basically he looks for crystals that fit the mood he wants to fulfill.

Emoto’s methods are to attach stickers with words such as “love” or “hate” to beakers of water, freeze them, and photograph the resultant ice crystals. ...

Blech. Pseudoscience.

Sorry celest, but don't give the guy too much scientific credit. There is a misunderstanding that this man has submitted over 150 scientific peer reviewed papers, but that was a typo and those 150 papers actually were written by Stuart Hameroff M.D..

Emoto claims to have submitted a single "peer reviewed" paper - but in fact it has never been reviewed. It is a photo essay comparable to a high school science project. His work is highly speculative. Basically he looks for crystals that fit the mood he wants to fulfill.

Emoto’s methods are to attach stickers with words such as “love” or “hate” to beakers of water, freeze them, and photograph the resultant ice crystals. Positive words, music or thoughts are expected to create ice crystals that are aesthetically pleasing. The most important part of this process is to ensure the technician looks long enough to find a crystal that will correspond to the tag.

utter sham.

Oortcloud - yes and no (it is and it isn't a matter of belief). Studies with "the placebo effect" show that maybe belief has much more influence than we give it credit for and personal experiences either of myself or people I know who have used the "power of their belief", even though they had moments of doubt, when everyone and everything around them said, "no this can't be true" - and they proved them wrong.

Our world is created on stories. I acknowledge that none of them are totally true (the good or the bad). Which ones do I want to believe? Words are guides, maps aiming to explain something that often is much more than the words can convey. Ultimately all stories are not the "truth" t...

Oortcloud - yes and no (it is and it isn't a matter of belief). Studies with "the placebo effect" show that maybe belief has much more influence than we give it credit for and personal experiences either of myself or people I know who have used the "power of their belief", even though they had moments of doubt, when everyone and everything around them said, "no this can't be true" - and they proved them wrong.

Our world is created on stories. I acknowledge that none of them are totally true (the good or the bad). Which ones do I want to believe? Words are guides, maps aiming to explain something that often is much more than the words can convey. Ultimately all stories are not the "truth" they are only fingers pointing at the moon, they are not the moon itself.

Yet, the stories we believe do tend to flavour our experiences of this world - positively or negatively and I still love falling into the stars

Oortcloud I work wholisitically with people - but I avoid as much as possible telling people what they should or should not eat etc. I teach yoga.(this too is a box which I do my best to live outside of).

Ultimately, I find I work with people to find ways of letting them step outside of their self-imposed boxes that they do not even realize they have stepped into - most often dealing with ill-health.

It was not my choice of focus - though - the way people approach yoga and the way it is marketed - is they wait till something goes wrong and then decide they have to do something. It is never too late if people genuinely want to heal.

Learning to listen into the body and letting go of what s...

Oortcloud I work wholisitically with people - but I avoid as much as possible telling people what they should or should not eat etc. I teach yoga.(this too is a box which I do my best to live outside of).

Ultimately, I find I work with people to find ways of letting them step outside of their self-imposed boxes that they do not even realize they have stepped into - most often dealing with ill-health.

It was not my choice of focus - though - the way people approach yoga and the way it is marketed - is they wait till something goes wrong and then decide they have to do something. It is never too late if people genuinely want to heal.

Learning to listen into the body and letting go of what science tells me should or should not happen, instead listening to the inner intelligence that exists within the cells of my body - is amazing. Finding ways for people to explore their own bodies as intimately as that is amazing.

Hearing stories of people who have fully recovered after not one but two minor strokes so that you would never know they even had one. People who have gone through mainstream process of dealing with cancer (ie surgery) yet now you can see how much they have learned and grown and "just know" it is really unlikely they will ever have to face that again. Just by the way they approach life and the lessons they come up against.

These are the things that make me believe in the work of Dr Masuro Emoto. I experience these things in my own life.

Nah, its a matter of faith type belief. You just said so yourself - it can't be explained in a way that proves it and science contradicts it, yet you choose to believe it anyway.

The problem I have with it is that we know it isn't true and then people like you take this "I'm not out to hurt anyone" line that really only serves to shore up the gullibility of others and then we have people losing their lives and health and lots of money because they choose these woo shams over reality.

My mother in law wasted so much of her money on bullshit stuff like this because she had cancer and she was in a lot of pain. But do you know what cured her of it?

It sure wasn't the stupid crystals she bough...

Nah, its a matter of faith type belief. You just said so yourself - it can't be explained in a way that proves it and science contradicts it, yet you choose to believe it anyway.

The problem I have with it is that we know it isn't true and then people like you take this "I'm not out to hurt anyone" line that really only serves to shore up the gullibility of others and then we have people losing their lives and health and lots of money because they choose these woo shams over reality.

My mother in law wasted so much of her money on bullshit stuff like this because she had cancer and she was in a lot of pain. But do you know what cured her of it?

It sure wasn't the stupid crystals she bought. Certainly not the various "all natural" miracle pills or the magnets she strapped to herself. We can rule out the foul fungus she grew in the refrigerator that she drank the water it steeped in.

Thankfully I came into her life in time to stop her from purchasing that special holistic water someone tried to sell her that had been diluted 1000 times with cancer cells.

Nope, it was science that created medicine through research that finally saved her. It sucked for her during her chemo therapy and her hair has never grown back longer than half an inch, but it killed the cancer and she has survived.

So I'll put my money on the testable, provable, and observable truth.

In the spirit of keeping to the topic I've been looking into Emoto's claims, but aside from tons of people who just accept it as true and make claims that "there is more out there than we know" there is extremely little to back up the claims that Emoto makes.

In fact, while he and others claim he is peer reviewed, the opposite is true. Those who do try and duplicate his results find that, yes, you can find 'good' crystals in water treated with prayer and 'bad' crystals in water treated with curses - but you also find an equal amount of their opposites in each test group revealing that Emoto's results boil down to him just picking 'pretty' and 'ugly' crystals and declaring a success.

In ot...

In the spirit of keeping to the topic I've been looking into Emoto's claims, but aside from tons of people who just accept it as true and make claims that "there is more out there than we know" there is extremely little to back up the claims that Emoto makes.

In fact, while he and others claim he is peer reviewed, the opposite is true. Those who do try and duplicate his results find that, yes, you can find 'good' crystals in water treated with prayer and 'bad' crystals in water treated with curses - but you also find an equal amount of their opposites in each test group revealing that Emoto's results boil down to him just picking 'pretty' and 'ugly' crystals and declaring a success.

In other words, it comes down to a diligence to finding strait pieces of straw in a prayed upon haystack and bent pieces of straw in cursed haystacks. You are going to find both no matter which haystack you look in and neither has any meaningful variation of the amount regardless of emotions projected at the haystacks.

One other think I kept coming across was the "Maharishi Effect" which describes "the phenomenon of the rise of coherence in the collective consciousness of any community" and they use crime as an example saying that when a number of trained yoga masters or meditators focus their power with “technologies of consciousness,” including Transcendental Meditation and other advanced meditation techniques, they claim to decrease crime rates.

When the records were checked :

One TM® study by a MUM physics professor, Dr. Robert Rabinoff, claimed that the Maharishi effect was responsible for reducing crime and accidents while simultaneously increasing crop production in the vicinity of Maharishi University in Fairfield, Iowa. James Randi checked with the Fairfield Police Dept, the Iowa Dept of Agriculture, and the Dept of Motor Vehicles and found that the Rabinoff’s data was invented (Randi 1982, 99-108).

It all speaks for itself.

You clipped it, I responded to it by pointing out the supported and contradictive evidence that reveals Emoto for the shamster he is.

Don't get me wrong, he takes nice crystalline pictures, but even the likes of fantasy artist Boris Vallejo doesn't create a world of reality with his artistry.

It's not a matter of choosing belief. It's a matter of accepting reality over fantasy. If there was any real evidence to support the woo that the likes of Emoto claims I'd I have nothing else to say, but every day millions of people fall victim to these snake oil salesmen and many die or suffer grievously for something that a little rational education could easily erase.

Perhaps you have compelling ...

You clipped it, I responded to it by pointing out the supported and contradictive evidence that reveals Emoto for the shamster he is.

Don't get me wrong, he takes nice crystalline pictures, but even the likes of fantasy artist Boris Vallejo doesn't create a world of reality with his artistry.

It's not a matter of choosing belief. It's a matter of accepting reality over fantasy. If there was any real evidence to support the woo that the likes of Emoto claims I'd I have nothing else to say, but every day millions of people fall victim to these snake oil salesmen and many die or suffer grievously for something that a little rational education could easily erase.

Perhaps you have compelling evidence that supports Emoto's claims? I'd be interested in seeing it because I found nothing.