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8-28-2008 9:03 PM
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klippety says:
Too long have Americans been silenced and intimidated. America is one of the very few democracies where the people are afraid of their government and not the way it should be, whereby the Government should be afraid of its people.
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8-28-2008 10:34 PM
The REAL Napster
whereby the Government should be afraid of its people
Show us if you can, all these governments that are afraid of their people.
8-29-2008 10:44 AM
dmegivern
We have become a nation of quivering chickens. We need to look around and see all of the nations that have harnessed government and where the people really do rule.
8-29-2008 10:45 AM
dmegivern
France, Finland, Norway, Sweden, for starters.
8-29-2008 11:23 AM
darkduskx
Europeans should've learned their lessons already of course. They were the first to have their republics dismantled by dirty tactics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc
8-29-2008 2:43 PM
Satchamo
This is a republic not a democracy. As my quote for today courtesy of Harry S Truman states, "Whenever you have an efficient government you have a dictatorship." Or as a professor in England stated about 1787, when we were writing our Constitution, "A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.

From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

The average age of the world's greate...
8-29-2008 2:59 PM
dmegivern
Anti democracy tactics don't surprise me. We wouldn't want the people to rule if there is a Republic to worship.
8-29-2008 3:08 PM
The REAL Napster
France, Finland, Norway, Sweden, for starters

France? Please. Sarkosy is in charge now. Not the 18 year olds who were torching everything in sight.

Finland- no signs they are afraid of anyone
Norway- Same.
Sweden is a mess, however. Once the neutral little giant, they are being forced to deal with ther world around them. You can't hide your head in the sand forever.
8-30-2008 1:19 AM
klippety
Perhaps the phrase " afraid of their people" is a bit strong, however, in Germany the Chancellor A. Merkel and even Sarcozy in France are very much "afraid" or very, very nervous at least, not to raise hackles with the Unions and their opposition too much. Huge demonstrations with numbers that seem out of this world here in the US, for or against something, strikes that shut down a country, yes they are afraid of the will of their people. Democracy is not static, it is evolutionary, fluid in it's dynamic, or stagnant as the level of participation drops as it did in the US since the 70ties. Democratic notions from 17hundreds, the Greeks or other ideas along those lines, represent the level of...
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