 bignosemousie says: Hooray for more government control. We can't be trusted to make any decisions anymore. I welcome the big inclusive handbook for Government Sanctioned Childrearing. Do you think NY and CA will get together and propose criminalizing feeding transfats to a child? Wouldn't it be safer and smarter to just take our kids away at birth and put them in a Government Controlled Childcare Facility? Why take a risk that parents might screw something up? LOL, you crack me up!! bignosemousie said:I wonder if the government is more likely to be friendly to Babywise Strategies or Attachment Parenting Strategies. I envision something more like a Plastic Hamster Ball Strategy. Ha ha ha! If there is a parenting police can I enlist! bignosemousie ! !! I like the way you speak. Good clip Well said Mousie, I agree with your sentiments. Being someone who was spanked so hard to the point that I was beaten out of my mind and left a sobbing hulk, and usually for no reason other than small things such as crying when I cut my leg or not eating my food fast enough; and often being told that I was a stupid child; and this causing me to live in antisocial fear under my overprotective and abusive parents until I was 17; and then forcing me to go into the world not ready for it, scared of everything, and confused, and eventually leading me to illegal drugs and alcohol... I am not laughing here. I wished for years that someone would have stepped in and helped me. But I also went to a catholic school, and was a minority--native american--so I was helpless. But looking at it reasonably... making too many laws to the point that government is raising your children limits personal freedom and can leave a parent feeling violated, but also giving too much freedom can allow irresponsible and sadistic parents like what I had to run wild, and destroy lives in the process. I agree with this law. But only because it would derail a few parents who spank only for their own personal pleasure. The fall of western civilization began when we started looking at kids as pets, instead of cheap labor. eemorningwood... can I use that in a work presentation? AD--I sympathize and wish you better times ahead. This law would not do anything to help a child victim of that level of abuse. People that toxic,negative and hurtful are not going to be any less abusive due to a no-spanking law. I believe there already are laws against excessive physical punishment,and ,as you and many of us know,the most damaging abuse is more often inflicted psychologically. That could not be affected by this law,could it? I think there are by far more good parents who can judiciously,effectively,and lovingly administer a well-timed swat who would be classified with abusers and losers,and risk criminal charges , than there would be effective interventions in situation... Agreed davboz, that wasn't a spanking you received, Arthur, it was assault. However, at this rate, parents aren't going to be able to discipline at all (safely and sanely) for fear of getting locked up. Leaving the kid in time-out: negligence. Swatting the kid a time or two: physical abuse. Yelling at the kid: causing a scene and inviting someone to call child-services. Leaving the kid undisciplined: a nuisance to the public when the kid is out of control. I agree with the method of thinking behind the law, but not the law itself. I'm sure there are better things that can be done with the legislature's time that drafing an unenforeceable law. But the science behind the law is correct. Children under the age of three cannot connect the spanking with what they have just done. It is called egocentrism, a basic child psychology prinicple. Until about 4 or 5, the world revolves around them, and they can do no wrong. And even after that age, positive reenforcement is a far better method of raising a child than with negative reenforcement, as that breaks trust. And this isn't microchips under our skin, as far as 'government control' comes into play. It's decency. Mrs Skwirl and I raised 4 wonderful and repectful children in a home that only allowed 3 whacks on the but. If our child needed a turn around it was 3 whacks and a 2 minute timeout. Once or twice we would sneak in a 4th whack and what an effect that would have. We believe that whailing on a child's body is nothing more than you not controlling your own anger. There are very few 3 whack crimes. Backtalking and attitude adjustment fall in that catergory. Crime against society can range from a 1 wack to a 4 whack punishment. Our children are not afraid of us and they have grown to learn patience and moderation. We have a calm house and conversations and ideas flow freely. If you MUST wh... |
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