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2-15-2006 5:20 PM
egoldstein
Wow, what a class act his is.

That's like me walking up to you, punching you in the face and then saying "i take full responsibility for the black eye you have'. No shit it was his responsibility.
2-15-2006 5:33 PM
rachelw
Well... thats just the type of stand up guy he is!! Taking responsibility, isn't that what he's known for??
I just love the fact that he predictably chose Fox News for his interview! Going it safe!
2-15-2006 8:03 PM
bgclips
of course it was fox. it is the house organ.
2-15-2006 8:27 PM
Guillaume
"One of the worst day of my life"

I first thought the victim said that, not the hunter...
2-15-2006 8:40 PM
ericw
This is actually a great way to spin it. It's a familiar tactic. After all, this is the adminsitration that has become the victim of the "liberal media"
2-15-2006 8:43 PM
Guillaume
I don't know if it will be enough to spin it though... Looks like they have a big crisis going on. It will be fun. (not for that poor lawyer, obviously)
2-15-2006 8:45 PM
egoldstein
so much fun. this is too good, too funny, too good to be true. the vice president shot a man in the face while hunting for birds and then waited a day to tell anyone. i love it!!
2-15-2006 8:47 PM
egoldstein
I think we should add a tab to the top of the navigator called "Cheney"

I have a feeling this might just be that good
2-15-2006 9:55 PM
guy
totally crazy- this entire situation is crazy- crazy, crazy, crazy- accidents happen-- but in real life you don't get a day to think about it-- why make it so complicated- - 'the guy'

i'm not done actually- i changed my mind- this is not crazy... it is sad-- i think the fact that our country allows this to be sat on overnight and then days go by without a comment is nuts-

i can only imagine if Whittington dies... while a sick thought, that would be interesting...

'the guy'
2-15-2006 10:01 PM
Godfrey Daniel
I can hardly believe how silly, cynical, and petty y'all are.
It's a simple hunting accident.
Unbelievable.
2-15-2006 10:24 PM
egoldstein
Godfrey, lets play this out...
- VP of USA shoots a man in the face while hunting for birds (is the shot guy 100ft tall or were the birds walking?)
- VP of USA says nothing about this for an entire day
- Word gets out, but apparently the shot guy is fine
- The shot guy has a heart attack because there is ammo lodged in his heart
- The VP says he feels really bad about the whole thing

If you think this is kosher, what would make you question things?
2-15-2006 10:34 PM
Godfrey Daniel
"VP of USA" has nothing to do with this. These were two guys out hunting. Accidents happen. And he shouldn't feel bad? I would. And It wouldn't even occur to me to rush in front of the press to make a public proclamation either.

The fact that you even ask the "100ft guy" question shows how much you know about quail..... city slicker.
2-15-2006 11:32 PM
jatfla
As big as the internet is, it's amazing how ignorant people can 'choose' to be. The 'victim' was below ground level...in a gully coming from behind the VP. The #1 priorty was getting the man medical attention, notifying his wife and locating his children. Then there was the need for accurate information about his condition and informing the President of the situation and frankly, determining how best to handle the situation. As well, they should! considering the crap that has been slung around. Of course, it wouldn't have mattered. Mr. Cheney would have been blasted no matter what.

It's interesting that there hasn't been the slightest whisper from the tenderhearted liberals about the...
2-15-2006 11:35 PM
egoldstein
Couldn't disagree more, but hey, that's what makes the world go around. I appreciate the opportunity to listen to your point of view and learn from it...even if it's wrong
2-15-2006 11:38 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Tell it, Sister!
2-15-2006 11:41 PM
egoldstein
LOL!!
2-15-2006 11:42 PM
ericw
Yes, VP of USA has a LOT to do with this. Anyone else would have been handcuffed right then and there, ask questions later. The fact of the matter is having a day to mull over to get your talking points straight is a luxury afforded to only those with power like the VP. And yes, of course he should feel bad. But the sad part is, it is almost impossible not to question the politics of his guilt.

jatfla - concerning getting help for the victim. Of course, without a doubt, helping the victim is a priority. That's why there are paramedics and trained professionals for incidents like this. I am sure Cheney will be plagued by this day for a very long time. But just a question ... when Clin...
2-15-2006 11:43 PM
egoldstein
Tell it, Brother!
2-15-2006 11:44 PM
jklugman
So much for not using the computer an hour before going to bed.
2-15-2006 11:44 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Damn! da whole family tellin' it!
2-15-2006 11:49 PM
Godfrey Daniel
"Yes, VP of USA has a LOT to do with this. Anyone else would have been handcuffed right then and there, ask questions later. "

Eric W, that's insane. For what? We're talking a hunting accident here.

There is clearly a city/country divide in understanding here, "paramedics"? out hunting?
2-15-2006 11:59 PM
ericw
You're probably right about the city/country divide. But if these type of accidents are so common and anticipated, then surely there must be some gameplan in place to deal with these type of situations on the ranch. If not, then there should be.

As for no "paramedics" or any sort of medical authority available ... ridiculous. This is Cheney, who does not come alone. There are secret service, there is a direct line of communication (to anybody really) always. My God .. if Cheney had been the one who had been shot, there would have been a chopper within 10 minutes of the shell fired.

I just find it really hard to believe that Cheney (or his people) delayed approaching the press or au...
2-16-2006 12:03 AM
jklugman
Didn't news reports of the shooting say that Cheney always travels with an ambulance (and maybe even doctors??) in tow, so the victim got immediate medical attention?
2-16-2006 12:05 AM
ericw
So true jklugman.
2-16-2006 12:12 AM
Godfrey Daniel
Absolutely good points. Which makes the hubbub over all this so ridiculous, Bub.

There was undoubtedly secret service there, and as you said probably a doctor in tow as well. Folks who could otherwise be described as witnesses to the accident. Accident. Accident.

I guess I just am incredulous about the whole "going to the press" thing.
For what purpose?
2-16-2006 3:04 AM
davidcong
oh! I cant see photo
2-16-2006 7:58 AM
guy
the reason it matters that the guy who SHOT the other guy is the VP is exactly that... he is the VP- if that means he is entitled to different treatment, such as not being arrested immediatly.... there must also be a different level of professionalism in handling the situation as a result of being treated differently... such as not hiding the fact but instead coming clean ASAP... and not sit around with a room full of advisers debating if there is a way not to tell anyone at all--- maybe he should have shot everyone else there so nobody would know what happened and we could have just moved on to topics like healthcare that matter ... so yes, this is dedious... but only b/c they made it so--- 'the guy'
2-16-2006 8:02 AM
jatfla
There was no delay in approaching the authorities....just the press.

They would be at the bottom of my list too.
2-16-2006 8:05 AM
guy
approaching the authorities... HE IS THE AUTHORITY- 'the guy'

as the VP you don't have the luxury of avoiding the press-- i agree, they stink and it's about business, not news... BUT that's life- he knew that as an executive at Haliburton, he knew it as VP- sorry, become a farmer if you don't want your name on the cover of the newspaper- 'the guy'
2-16-2006 9:02 AM
jatfla
I don't think the issue is having your name and face on the cover of newspapers. It's... does he have to talk to the media? No, he doesn't. There is nothing in our Constitution (as Dr. Sowell points out in another Clipmark) that requires anyone, including the VP, to make statements to the Media. Press conferences were instituted some time ago as a "courtesy" Courtesy and press conference don't seem to go together anymore.
The only mistake he made, as did the victim, (apart from accidently shooting his hunting companion) was failing to have a current 'stamp'; for which both will pay the fine.
2-16-2006 9:37 AM
Kore7
There's nothing in the constitution requiring the VP to run to the press in the event of an accident, but the White House should have learned by now that public perception DOES demand it. Whether you think the story's been inflated by the press or not, the WH knows how the press operates and they must have had an inkling about how the initial cloak of secrecy would play out in public once exposed.

It's been said before but Karl Rove has been off his game ever since the CIA leak investigation began. A non-distracted Rove would have found a way to smooth this over better with the public.

In the end, what matters is the possible political implications amongst the American voters. Whether hype...
2-16-2006 12:43 PM
london2020
Who believes the image of a politician can be changed for anyone already having a subjective image of same politician? I don't.
2-16-2006 12:59 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Objectivity is the key to everything.
Well, maybe not love.
2-16-2006 10:35 PM
london2020
Objectivity is a chimera.
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