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9-4-2009 10:35 PM
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9-5-2009 12:39 AM
harveymathis37
Are you a right winger? I'm just asking.
9-5-2009 1:03 AM
willhelm
Right wing in the context of American politics is a constitutional libertarian which requires one to possess the highest level of tolerance and cultural conservative intent on remaining true to the founding ideals. A left winger is a Progressive, statist-fascist. Fascism and Libertarianism are opposite ends of a circular spectrum. I believe in true tolerance, not contrived tolerance. I believe in individual sovereignty not mobilized, fascistic, unity. I believe in the million points of light not societal manipulation. I believe it is an injustice to take ones property and give it to someone else. I believe a society that cultivates brotherly love, ethics, faith, hard work, strong families, p...
9-5-2009 3:59 AM
merrie
POP for comment. Thanks willhelm.
9-5-2009 6:59 AM
pkronfield
Another POP. Bravo Willhelm!
9-5-2009 7:36 AM
katsteevns
Which founding ideas are you referring to? The Bill of Rights was not a founding ideal, it was a concession that was initially rejected by Congress and only adopted when the states were at risk of seceding.
9-5-2009 10:00 AM
willhelm
The founding ideals refer to the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, The Federalist Papers, The sum total of dialogue and quotes in toto, Natural Law, The agenda and legacy of the founders who became Presidents, and the philosophy of those preceding federalism, republicanism, and democracy.
9-5-2009 10:27 AM
katsteevns
Federalist No. 10: Factions
"a number of citizens, whether amounting to a minority or majority of
the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of
passion, or of interest, adverse to the rights of other citizens, or to
the permanent and aggregate interests of the community."

"the most common and durable source of factions has been the various
and unequal distribution of property. Those who hold and those who are
without property have ever formed distinct interests in society."

"A pure democracy can admit no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A
common passion or interest will be felt by a majority, and there is
nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party. ...
9-5-2009 11:30 AM
Steve Savage
Pop for the comment, willhelm.
9-5-2009 6:14 PM
willhelm
In toto , Like I said, katsteevns. You can't just pick the parts you like.
9-5-2009 6:44 PM
katsteevns
Oh, and I suppose you think Daniel Shay was just a rabble rouser.

Who wrote the Constitution? Who could afford to take 4 plus months off from work to travel to PA. and sit around debating? Not the average citizen, that's for sure. The moneyed interests were first and foremost interested in protecting their vast wealth form the "leveling" attributes of a truly democratic process. Then, and only then, after their wealth was secured, did they act for the worker, or the slave, and only under great pressure to form a republic that could be controlled from a central location. Even the ownership of slaves was protected under the Constitution.
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