Excellent Helen Thomas column on Bush' admission of torture policy


	Excellent Helen Thomas column on Bush' admission of torture policy

papananook

5-3-2008 1:24 PM

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5-3-2008 5:11 PM

masbury

We don't torture. Because it's illegal. Unless we do it. Then, it's not torture. Because we're at war. And these people aren't soldiers. So it's legal.

5-4-2008 10:50 AM

papananook

Chey/Bush circular logic designed to obfuscate the truth ( i love that word)

5-5-2008 4:24 PM

masbury

Obfuscating on the desk, in the oval office, even right out in public!

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