masbury says: Reducing its US govt credit line by $25B, selling its HQ, a Japanese office building, and many other assets. All that money we heard about that was going out is starting to come back. That's uplifting news. Kind of makes the people who obsessed about the billions spent in bailouts look like fools, doesn't it? That money was never permanently gone. Well, if they pay the taxpayers back, that is good news. However, the managers have participated in creating a crash in home values, a severe recession, and a culture of greed, while personally enriching themselves. This American taxpayer doesn't think companies like that deserve our money in the first place. They should have been allowed to destroy themselves and give the smaller businesses a real opportunity to fill the void. Business oligarchs clearly are too big and powerful to die and they rule the world, at the expense of the rest of us. The damage they did is almost irreparable, but the Republicans are still trying to cloud the issue by claiming that the money paid in bailout is gone for good, while, in truth, it's coming back, and is actually making money for Americans. They shouldn't have been bailed out in the first place, but there's nothing that can be done about that now. What we can do is dispute the Right's claims that all of taxpayer money is being wasted. This particular "waste of money" is bringing returns, as shameful as it was to make that investment in the first place. Actually, had they been left to fail I think it might not have been "them" anymore, but us. AIG's connections, via "insurance" on securitized mortgage products, were so pervasive that your local bank might well not have had money to operate had AIG gone under. These insured funds were held by banks, by funds, and by investors literally all over the world. If they go down, you might not be able to write checks. Secondly, all that came from only one rather small part of AIG - the rest of the company appears to be solid. And it will never be the same, for the way they will get the money to pay us back is by selling off their other divisions to cover the losses and get cash. That's essentia... See, it's true that there are big shots involved, but the people hurt the most by an AIG failure could have been people like us. It really is that pervasive. Now, the Congress has to have the guts to regulate so that will never happen again - or, at least, until the next time the GOP convinces us we're over-regulated and "the markets" can be trusted, and starts the process all over again. Masbury how much of your money is in AIG, Goldman Sachs, BAC, etc? There have been MANY bank failures, not one person has gone without their money. Only the rich are hurt by the failures of the behemoths-most average Americans have their money in smaller banks, many who are failing due to the crisis they did not create. I wonder if the FDIC could have insured all of the little guys money for less than the cost of saving the big guys. While there is merit to the argument that doing nothing would have caused a massive failure of the financial system, there were/are many options besides bailing out the bad guys. Only a few people talk about them, so many are left with the impression that we h... A real solution that benefits the little guy, capitalism, and America in the long run: debt to equity--help the individual debtor, not the corporate oligarchs--if you no longer encourage too big to fail risk taking-- no more excessive risk taking occurs--make em pay for their idiocy. Regulations or not, we will have another bubble and crash until they realize no more bailouts-ever. There is no amount of regulation that can forsee the creative financing these people can come up with. I say our government will only help the little guy from now on. It will ... Good points, Deb. There is yet a vast inequity between the amount of money the gov't provides for the rich and the comparatively paltry - but hotly protested - amount of money it provides to those who are the victims of the rich. Thanks for the examples! Popped for good reading and very good points mas and deb. Excellent Points Deb!!! I agree with you here!!! |
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